Trading Hyperstrada for Multistrada - Page 3

NurseDaddy · October 23rd, 2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by peoples1234

I can't believe there is a ducati dealer that doesn't offer test rides.

Perhaps you should let Ducati know of this practice, I know that Ducati dealers are supposed to have demo bikes.

They cite being in NY, with high insurance rates, and the number of times someone's taken a demo bike out, crashed, and sued them when they got hurt.

Meanwhile my bike was purchased by the dealer as a DEMO, but never used as one. It had no miles and was never prepped til I bought it.

peoples1234 · October 23rd, 2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NurseDaddy

They cite being in NY, with high insurance rates, and the number of times someone's taken a demo bike out, crashed, and sued them when they got hurt.

Meanwhile my bike was purchased by the dealer as a DEMO, but never used as one. It had no miles and was never prepped til I bought it.

That this with a grain of salt, as I do not know, but doesn't Ducati absorb some of the cost on the Demo units they send to dealers so that the dealer can offer it for test rides and then later sell it at a loss? If that is true, sounds like that dealer is having it's cake and eating it too.

NurseDaddy · October 23rd, 2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by peoples1234

That this with a grain of salt, as I do not know, but doesn't Ducati absorb some of the cost on the Demo units they send to dealers so that the dealer can offer it for test rides and then later sell it at a loss? If that is true, sounds like that dealer is having it's cake and eating it too.

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

gatdammit · October 24th, 2014, 09:09 AM

Sounds more like a scam than insurance scares. It's pretty easy to get a legal waiver that will put all the responsibility on you. Then all they need is proof of insurance. In fact, the more I think about this...total bullshit.

NurseDaddy · October 24th, 2014, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gatdammit

Sounds more like a scam than insurance scares. It's pretty easy to get a legal waiver that will put all the responsibility on you. Then all they need is proof of insurance. In fact, the more I think about this...total bullshit.

I know. It makes me angry.
I wish I'd walked away... more like ridden away. On my 690 Duke, instead of trading it in for something I didn't test ride. I bought the Duke without a test ride, but that was lust and it didn't disappoint. Best riding bike I've owned to date. If it only had ABS I'd have kept it. The new ones have it but don't have the fully adjustable wonderful suspension.

I don't want to buy there again but I'll see if I can voice my dissatisfaction and get them to give me a killer deal. If not, I'll go elsewhere this time.

NurseDaddy · October 25th, 2014, 02:43 PM

OK, so after a 200mile ride upstate and back I went back to the dealer to give them a piece of my mind. But the dealership was sold and under new ownership. New owners there have no problem with demo rides. So much for voicing my dissatisfaction to influence a better potential deal.

Long story short, I took a 2012 Multistrada Touring S with 6500 miles on it for a ride. Equipped with Ohlins suspension, electronically adjusted via the Sport, Touring, Urban, and Enduro settings.

No thanks.

Yes, the ride in "Urban" was like a Lincoln Town Car. The ride in "Touring" was like a sports sedan. "Sport" was like a sports car. But the bike's big and heavy, with a rear brake that basically did nothing. It didn't like to turn. The windscreen was worse than the Hyperstrada's regardless of where I set it in the five inches or so of height adjustment.

When I got back to the dealer after my test ride they pretty much said they don't want my bike since they have three of them already that they need to sell. Two leftover '13's and a '15. So he said he'd give me whatever the wholesaler he called would give him. I thanked them for the test ride and got back on my bike and rode home.

appliance821 · October 26th, 2014, 08:20 AM

This sure sounds dispiriting. Needless to say selling as winter comes is not the best time - and making a move when you're frustrated could cost you money. I also bought mine without a test ride. It's a bike that asks you to meet it halfway and I wasn't sure I made the right decision. As I've become a better rider I've come to appreciate it.

I still think something is defective on your front end. A wheel bobbing up and down on a smooth road is not how any suspension works. I'd have the wheel balance checked - maybe a weight fell off. I was also just reading how too much torque on triple clamp bolts can screw up the fork action. Maybe re-torque them just to be sure.

If all else fails, next year ktm is coming out with a 1050 - might be worth waiting to check it out.

NurseDaddy · October 26th, 2014, 08:49 AM

Hmm. Torque, huh? Considering I only torqued them all by hand to the spec of "that feels about right" there may be something to that, in causing stiction or something. Can you post a link to where you were reading about that?

I wonder where I can find the torque specs for those triple tree bolts.

Articrider · October 26th, 2014, 11:00 AM

Test rode a 2013 MS with an intention of trade-in, but was disappointing. Vibration was the main problem, plus wind protection was not good for such a high priced bike. I felt the 2014 Caponord a lot better.

NurseDaddy, have you tried a Speed Triple. The riding position may be a bit difficult for somebody who are used to HS, but overall very appealing bike to me.

kuksul08 · October 26th, 2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NurseDaddy

OK, so after a 200mile ride upstate and back I went back to the dealer to give them a piece of my mind. But the dealership was sold and under new ownership. New owners there have no problem with demo rides. So much for voicing my dissatisfaction to influence a better potential deal.

Long story short, I took a 2012 Multistrada Touring S with 6500 miles on it for a ride. Equipped with Ohlins suspension, electronically adjusted via the Sport, Touring, Urban, and Enduro settings.

No thanks.

Yes, the ride in "Urban" was like a Lincoln Town Car. The ride in "Touring" was like a sports sedan. "Sport" was like a sports car. But the bike's big and heavy, with a rear brake that basically did nothing. It didn't like to turn. The windscreen was worse than the Hyperstrada's regardless of where I set it in the five inches or so of height adjustment.

When I got back to the dealer after my test ride they pretty much said they don't want my bike since they have three of them already that they need to sell. Two leftover '13's and a '15. So he said he'd give me whatever the wholesaler he called would give him. I thanked them for the test ride and got back on my bike and rode home.

Well that's... a good thing?

Maybe you should get away from Ducati altogether then. Go ride a BMW or a Honda. Or the new Kawasaki Versys.

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October 24th, 2014, 09:09 AM	#24
gatdammit Senior Member Joined: Mar 2013 From: Naples, IT Posts: 2,156 I Ride: 2013 White Strada	Sounds more like a scam than insurance scares. It's pretty easy to get a legal waiver that will put all the responsibility on you. Then all they need is proof of insurance. In fact, the more I think about this...total bullshit.

October 25th, 2014, 02:43 PM	#26
NurseDaddy Senior Member Joined: May 2014 From: Long Island Posts: 184	OK, so after a 200mile ride upstate and back I went back to the dealer to give them a piece of my mind. But the dealership was sold and under new ownership. New owners there have no problem with demo rides. So much for voicing my dissatisfaction to influence a better potential deal. Long story short, I took a 2012 Multistrada Touring S with 6500 miles on it for a ride. Equipped with Ohlins suspension, electronically adjusted via the Sport, Touring, Urban, and Enduro settings. No thanks. Yes, the ride in "Urban" was like a Lincoln Town Car. The ride in "Touring" was like a sports sedan. "Sport" was like a sports car. But the bike's big and heavy, with a rear brake that basically did nothing. It didn't like to turn. The windscreen was worse than the Hyperstrada's regardless of where I set it in the five inches or so of height adjustment. When I got back to the dealer after my test ride they pretty much said they don't want my bike since they have three of them already that they need to sell. Two leftover '13's and a '15. So he said he'd give me whatever the wholesaler he called would give him. I thanked them for the test ride and got back on my bike and rode home.

October 26th, 2014, 08:20 AM	#27
appliance821 Senior Member Joined: Jun 2014 From: Boston Posts: 860 I Ride: hyperstrada 821	This sure sounds dispiriting. Needless to say selling as winter comes is not the best time - and making a move when you're frustrated could cost you money. I also bought mine without a test ride. It's a bike that asks you to meet it halfway and I wasn't sure I made the right decision. As I've become a better rider I've come to appreciate it. I still think something is defective on your front end. A wheel bobbing up and down on a smooth road is not how any suspension works. I'd have the wheel balance checked - maybe a weight fell off. I was also just reading how too much torque on triple clamp bolts can screw up the fork action. Maybe re-torque them just to be sure. If all else fails, next year ktm is coming out with a 1050 - might be worth waiting to check it out.

October 26th, 2014, 08:49 AM	#28
NurseDaddy Senior Member Joined: May 2014 From: Long Island Posts: 184	Hmm. Torque, huh? Considering I only torqued them all by hand to the spec of "that feels about right" there may be something to that, in causing stiction or something. Can you post a link to where you were reading about that? I wonder where I can find the torque specs for those triple tree bolts.

October 26th, 2014, 11:00 AM	#29
Articrider Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: Abu Dhabi Posts: 36	Test rode a 2013 MS with an intention of trade-in, but was disappointing. Vibration was the main problem, plus wind protection was not good for such a high priced bike. I felt the 2014 Caponord a lot better. NurseDaddy, have you tried a Speed Triple. The riding position may be a bit difficult for somebody who are used to HS, but overall very appealing bike to me.