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Bengi May 12th, 2013 04:30 AM

Traction Control Question
 
I took a Hyperstradas for a test spin at my local dealer. I had a blast and found it shockingly comfortable. Out of all the bikes I have owned I miss is my KTM 690SM the most. The bike was an absolute grin machine but sadly single purposed. In the twists and in hooligan mode it was great but outside of that it was taxing to ride. The Hyperstrada seems to be the best of both worlds. Ripper in the twisties, comfortable elsewhere, mannered enough for around town and highway trips, and much more punch than the KTM.

So I will stop preaching to the choir and convincing myself its a rationale purchase.
I have a question about the traction control.
During my demo ride, 1 hour, I messed with the Sport, Touring, and urban settings. But I neglected to mess with the Traction Control settings.
The bike seems to have good punch but no wheel lift punch. Maybe this is a new bike and maybe I was kinder on the throttle because it was a new demo bike.
I feel it should have more low end torque.
With that said, again I did not pay attention to the TC setting.
Is there a default setting 1-8 per mode ( Sport touring or urban)?
Could the dealer have set the TC at the most intrusive level and I would have to manually change it( outside of switching from sport to touring to urban)?

Thanks

SuperTen May 12th, 2013 05:02 AM

It does have presets for the DTC, for each engine mode. You can change that or go back to defaults. Default for "Sport" mode is 3 DTC and 1 ABS, for "Touring" mode 4 DTC and 2 ABS.

Listening to the old HM 1100 guys, this motor does not have the same big grunt down low so not as easy to lift the front.

Bengi May 16th, 2013 12:52 PM

If this is true this might be why there was no wheel lift.

Ducati Hypermotard (2013 - ) expert review - Bike Trader UK

Quote:
"The eight-way adjustable traction control was worth having on slippery roads, but has to be turned off for wheelies."

Anyone know if the wheel will lift with any level of traction control on? Or does it have to be switched off to wheelie ????

gatdammit May 16th, 2013 01:40 PM

I got a little pop shifting to 2nd today. Remember how far forward you sit on this bike, too.

danielxavier May 17th, 2013 06:05 AM

Is there "anti wheelie" electronics on this bike?It may be a deal breaker for me until they add it.I took out the base model for a 40 min demo and got the front up a few times...not on purpose though!

Bengi May 17th, 2013 06:09 AM

OK so that still begs the question. When you felt the wheel lift did TC intervene ? Has anyone tried to wheelie with TC on and had it cut in?
My S1000RR won't lift at all in rain mode, it will pogo in sport mode, and lift for a considerable amount of time before intervention in slick mode.
Im wondering if the Hyper is similar.

jerdog53 May 17th, 2013 06:28 AM

Turn off the DTC and try it!

Bengi May 17th, 2013 07:24 AM

Maybe its best to broaden the discussion beyond the wheelie.

Being a non owner but a very interested perspective buyer I was hoping to get more info on the DTC. The Wheelie question seemed the simplest to ask.
I would actually like to know all the details around the DTC and ABS. I can't seem to find any details from Ducati and the dealers don't have the answers.

I had the same issue with the S1000 when it first came out. BMW did an OK job of explaining it. But they guys on the S1000 forum gave detailed reports on there real world experiences.

My questions:

Are there standard setting of DTS and ABS for each mode? ( SuperTen answered this I believe)
If so can we modify and customize these setting to our liking or will they always default back to the original when the bike is tuned off?
What level of intervention comes with each level of setting? Front and rear wheel lift ?
Does DTC have a lean angle sensor and will it intervene after we exceed that lean angel?
Does ABS link the front and rear wheel? If Yes can it be turned off?

I know its a new bike and not everything can be answered…..but I can help asking

Mibanez3 May 17th, 2013 08:33 AM

The traction control works monitoring the speed of each wheel and makes sure both wheels are rotating at the same speed, if your front wheel goes up it immediately starts going slower than the rear wheel, making the traction control kick in, the same happens if the rear wheel spins it starts going faster than the front wheel.

So just take the traction control off and you can wheelie all day long ;)

gatdammit May 17th, 2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bengi (Post 1984)
My questions:

Are there standard setting of DTS and ABS for each mode? ( SuperTen answered this I believe)
If so can we modify and customize these setting to our liking or will they always default back to the original when the bike is tuned off?
What level of intervention comes with each level of setting? Front and rear wheel lift ?
Does DTC have a lean angle sensor and will it intervene after we exceed that lean angel?
Does ABS link the front and rear wheel? If Yes can it be turned off?

I know its a new bike and not everything can be answered…..but I can help asking

3 power modes have default factory settings for DTC & ABS; these can be modified and do not reset with power off.

ABS is not linked front to rear; highest ABS setting intervenes both ends and prevents rear wheel lift; next lower setting only intervenes on front; last settin is OFF

bike will wheelie, plenty of reviews/video prove it. not sure about lean angle sensor


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