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Old March 4th, 2017, 10:53 AM   #1
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Oil Changes / Has anyone sent in Used Oil for analysis at Blackstone or elsewhere?

I thought I was reading a post about it here but must have been on another forum because I can't find it now.

Standard Analysis

I know oil changes/ oil is always a hotly debated topic, but

Is the consensus to change oil mid-service every say 4500 miles?

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Old March 4th, 2017, 11:46 AM   #2
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my dealer recommended mid-cycle. They race so I trust him. I drive my Duc way harder than my car, which I would never mid-cycle.
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Old March 4th, 2017, 12:05 PM   #3
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I do mine every 4-5k as well. It doesn't cost that much and certainly can't hurt.
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Old March 4th, 2017, 02:00 PM   #4
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I swap out the oil at 1/2 cycle (7,000 km), and filter, oil, magplug and screen inspections at full cycle (14,000 km). I feel that 7,000 km on used oil is enough time in service, however I don't see the need to change the filter as often as indicated by the screen and magplug inspections.
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Old March 4th, 2017, 02:27 PM   #5
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an oil filter is about $11 and holds about half a liter of old oil. Why not change it?
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Old March 4th, 2017, 04:22 PM   #6
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If you use the Amsoil EAO synthetic oil filter, the media continues to filter for a minimum of 15,000 miles.

That said, I choose to change oil and filter far more often than 9,000 miles.

Thus, using Blackstone isn't necessary.
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Old March 4th, 2017, 09:47 PM   #7
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an oil filter is about $11 and holds about half a liter of old oil. Why not change it?
Because I feel it doesn't warrant the change. The only real reason I'm changing the oil early is attempt to get most of the moisture out of the cases that the oil managed to trap, and hopefully avoid staining inside the case halves once the oil gets dark.

Most full synthetic oils have a lot longer service interval than old school mineral based oils, heck my '14 BMW F30 has a 25,000 km oil change interval (which I find absurd).. but the dealership is paying that bill so they can do it.
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Old March 5th, 2017, 10:28 AM   #8
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I have 24,000 hard miles on my SP and I change the oil according to the interval specified in the manual.

There are far worse things that are going to happen to this motorcycle before "dirty" oil takes out the engine...
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Old March 5th, 2017, 07:17 PM   #9
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Regular oil changes are very cheap insurance. I do all my vehicles every 6 months or at 1/2 way between 'recommended' service intervals, which ever is the sooner. Cheers.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 04:39 AM   #10
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Reading my auto owners manuals I see that Severe Duty oil change schedules are twice as often the normal schedule. The way I ride isn't like a commuter. Thus, I follow an informal oil change schedule.

For many motorcycle riders though, time is what requires a change. Every oil and filter manufacturer says that both must be changed annually.

I've seen the Blackstone reports on other motorcycle tests at 5,000 to 6,000 miles. With the exception of Amsoil, it was time for that oil to go as the additives were exhausted. Blackstone tests don't look at the long chain lubricating molecules to see if they are torn apart. Instead they infer this from other aspects of testing.

With the Euro desire for environmental nirvana, there is a push for 10,000 mile oil changes with autos. Makes sense for Ducati to say 9,000 mile oil changes with their Group 3+ synthetic oil.

If I was riding around the country on an Iron Butt ride, 9,000 miles might be just fine. The way I ride, and where I ride, leads me to believe that as the oil level sight glass shows dark oil, it's prudent to change the oil and filter.

It costs me $50.40 to change the oil and filter. Very small price for the certainty that the best of lubrication is in place.
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