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Old September 20th, 2017, 02:31 PM   #1
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Cornering Question

Okay, question before my Hyperstrada gets delivered this week.

I've had many sportbikes and attended many track days. I also own a YZ450f and still thrash about on many dirtbike tracks // trails around the midwest.

My question is this...How do people like to corner their Hyperstrada? Like a sportbike by shifting your body/head towards the inside of the corner or perhaps like a dirbike // supermoto and pushing the bike down into the corner whilst shifting your weight into the opposite direction? Excuse me if my general descriptions of cornering techniques are vague, I just don't want to get too detailed. So in short, what technique feels most comfortable to corner this bike? Thank you!
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Old September 20th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #2
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Your question is pretty straight forward. Take street corners like a sumo(sticking your foot out) or like a sportbike(shifting your body and sticking your knee out)? Maybe I just don't ride that aggressive on the street but I find that I don't do either lol. If I were to take the strada to the track I would probably ride it more like a sportbike than a sumo. I think that's what most people do. This pic comes to mind,



Here are a few more, eveyone seems to run knee out instead of foot out...





Although some people do run fun out so I guess it's all about personal preference and what feels right to you. If you come from a sumo backround it might feel better to throw your foot out there and if you come from a sportbike backround knee out might feel right.





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Old September 20th, 2017, 03:08 PM   #3
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The way I see it is that dirt bike and supermoto are different. Maybe climbing on top and shoving the bike down is fine off-road with knobby tires, but not on pavement. The adjustment for me from dirt to pavement required a number of changes, including the switch from rear to front brake.

Frankly, I find track riding style dangerous on streets because of the added factors like oncoming traffic, with so little lane discipline. My lines on the street always anticipate a big fat pickup farm trucks in my lane, unless I can clearly see ahead. Saved my life many times.

My preferred street riding style is the same as the UK motorcycle cops. Smooth, steady and upright. Time and time again UK magazines show they are every bit as fast as crossing their country as track style riders, with a lot more control.

BUT, photos look a lot more exciting with track style.
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Old September 20th, 2017, 03:28 PM   #4
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RSL, I agree with you for the most part. However, I corner with a little bit of hang off the bike. The more off the bike I am, the more upright the bike can be. This allows for a larger contact patch and more traction in the corner. If the turn radius suddenly tightens, I have plenty of room to lean the bike further. A completely upright stance is fine until you find yourself running out of lean angle and headed towards the ditch.
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Old September 20th, 2017, 03:57 PM   #5
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Like RSL, I primarily sit upright. I find this allows for the best balance of handling without fully committing to a turn by leaning my body weight off. Also, on roads with lots of back and forth transitions, hanging off is much much slower.

I do tend to stick my leg out from time to time, which is left over from my dirt biking years.
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Old September 20th, 2017, 04:53 PM   #6
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RSL, I agree with you for the most part. However, I corner with a little bit of hang off the bike. The more off the bike I am, the more upright the bike can be. This allows for a larger contact patch and more traction in the corner. If the turn radius suddenly tightens, I have plenty of room to lean the bike further. A completely upright stance is fine until you find yourself running out of lean angle and headed towards the ditch.

What he said. Mostly upright, but shifting some weight into the corner to keep the bike more upright. Also keeping towards the outside of the lane for errant traffic.

Sometimes there can be gravel, horse poop, or grass on the back roads. More upright in the corner is more available traction.
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Old September 20th, 2017, 05:13 PM   #7
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I extend my upper body into the corner, looking where I want to be. Pretty much have the weight shift and right gear selected before the lean.

On the countless back and forth successive corners on the tight mountain backroads having everything setup before the lean makes for a more stable bike.

Canít tell you how many times in a blind corner an oncoming vehicle is at least half in my lane. With just the upper body committed it is easier for me to compensate for any necessary line adjustment.

Photos arenít as good, but I still enjoy them.

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Old September 20th, 2017, 05:20 PM   #8
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Some may think Iím old and slow, but next week Iíll be playing on this road a few times. Plenty of cornering practice.

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Old September 20th, 2017, 05:25 PM   #9
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I'm relatively short so hanging the but off the seat does not work well for me when I gave it a try on the track. For me I find leaning forward and to the inside of the turn works with the but off center of the seat.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 05:13 AM   #10
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Some great feedback here gents. Thanks much.
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