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Old November 7th, 2017, 03:38 PM   #21
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If it helps, I bought mine used at 12000km, put on another 15000, and my clutch pack looked new. I'm a heavy user with some aggressive riding with some track days.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 03:54 PM   #22
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If you're on the fence, then go with the #133/6 kit, take it apart, and if you find your clutch pack destroyed you can always buy the DU-133 kit later.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 05:21 PM   #23
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If it helps, I bought mine used at 12000km, put on another 15000, and my clutch pack looked new. I'm a heavy user with some aggressive riding with some track days.
Yes, that does help. By comparison, my clutch [likely] hasn't had that bad of a life.

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If you're on the fence, then go with the #133/6 kit, take it apart, and if you find your clutch pack destroyed you can always buy the DU-133 kit later.
That's a good idea. I was on the fence while deciding because I forgot that the DU-133 doesn't have the parts from the #133/6, so it's not like I'd be buying them twice.

Thank you both, I have already ordered the #133/6.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 07:02 PM   #24
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I forgot to mention, guys, that this supplier selling the kits on eBay also has TONS of parts for Ducatis, all at really good prices. He has thousands of OEM surplus parts and random motorcycle parts.


One thing for example, is those little exhaust springs that some people have lost. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-2015-m...item281f343f78

There's a bunch of other stuff too if you look.
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Old November 8th, 2017, 06:37 PM   #25
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Ordered, thanx man... :-)
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Old November 9th, 2017, 05:01 AM   #26
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Also ordered. Thanks for the legwork on this. It should make a massive improvement in owner satisfaction.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 08:00 AM   #27
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Kuk or Bayotte~

Did either of you experience the following on stock setup and did it affect:

1. Drive line friction when in gear and clutch fully disengaged. When I have the clutch adjusted to stock spec and drop it in gear with lever fully in, I get a noticeable *thunk* and can feel the gear slightly grabbing. If I put it on the center stand and do this, tire moves at a couple mph but I can stop it with my foot or a gloved hand.

2. Tough, ratcheting gear changes. I normally ride in steel toe boots so don't notice this unless I happen to ride in soft toe shoes. Toeing up through gears is rough and I can actually feel it bouncing off the cogs until it finds the gear.

3. Do you still use stock settings for base clutch play adjustment?
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Old November 9th, 2017, 09:42 AM   #28
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1. I notice a little bit of driveline friction, but no more than any other bike. I find that it goes away as the oil gets hot, which is totally normal. After the retrofit, I don't notice any change in the driveline friction and it's exactly as you describe.

2. My gear changes have always been pretty smooth with a nice positive click. After the retrofit they still are. No change there.

3. I backed my clutch freeplay out to the factory recommended setting. Because the engagement distance is longer now, it's a little more important to make sure you can fully disengage the clutch.

FWIW I have used a couple different oils in my motorcycles, and I am currently using Motul 7100 10w40 in the Hyper. It dramatically improved the clutch feel and shifting smoothness. I would recommend it to anyone to give it a shot.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 09:51 AM   #29
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Kuk or Bayotte~

2. Tough, ratcheting gear changes. I normally ride in steel toe boots so don't notice this unless I happen to ride in soft toe shoes. Toeing up through gears is rough and I can actually feel it bouncing off the cogs until it finds the gear.
Soft shoes and your foot are going to be too soft for a positive gear change.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 09:53 AM   #30
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Are you asking if the described conditions existed BEFORE adding the kit?
And are you asking IF these symptoms are still there AFTER installing the kit?

Or are you just talking about a stock bike with stock clutch set up?

On my Stock clutch:
My 20K mile Strada Clunks big time going into 1st gear from neutral ... hot or cold. It's worst coming from neutral into 1st gear. When riding, no clunks ... but as you describe ... shifting is not always butter smooth but for me, generally good. Positve, precise.

I think this Ducati prefers a rather positive foot/lever input when shifting. It's not a perfect gearbox but generally FINE for me. I have come false neutrals once in a while between 5th and 6th, IIRC.

Also, with bike in gear, engine off, there is some drag when pushing bike around, engine off.

Clutch drag on many bikes can be oil related. Different brands seem to drag more than others.

But most times a minor lever or cable adjustment can improve things. Important to make sure clutch fully disengages to reduce drag when lever is pulled to the stop.

I've done a couple clutches on DRZ400 Suzukis. Important to soak clutch plates in oil before assembly. I soaked mine over night just to be safe. Perfect clutch action, no drag on those bikes.

Also, I was AMAZED at the amount of shrinkage of the Suzuki's springs. HUGE!
I have NO IDEA if the clutch springs on the Hyper shrink as on some other bikes, but it can make a HUGE difference in clutch feel and performance/engagement.

You can measure your clutch springs to see if they match OEM spec. If too short, replace them. HEAT does this!
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