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Old October 31st, 2018, 09:06 AM   #1
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Cool 11,000 miles

After reaching 11k miles in my HS in less tan two years, I can only say it,s the best motorcycle I,ve had.

Great for riding in the curves, not heavy, comfortable in long trips (up to 500 miles in one day) and I,m 60 years old. Easy in the city and great look.

So far only one two services, 100 usd each. Now in my second tires set, Metzeler road teach 01, great tires.

I test drive the new Multistrada 950, Basically the same engine in a bigger bike, not as fun.

It,s great that a have the HS because I,m 5.6 and couple weeks ago I went for a test drive in the new Hypermotard SP and Ohhh It,s tall.

I hope everyone is as happy as I,m with this bike.
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Old October 31st, 2018, 04:57 PM   #2
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That is a lot of riding. Happy to read about your experience.
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Old October 31st, 2018, 08:49 PM   #3
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...best motorcycle I,ve had...Great for riding in the curves, not heavy, comfortable in long trips (up to 500 miles in one day) and I,m [almost] 60 years old. Easy in the city and great look.
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Old November 1st, 2018, 10:27 AM   #4
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Yes, I agree with your post, a very nice all-around bike indeed (2016 939, 3,800miles). Although I would recommend a new buyer think about the pros/cons a little more than I did. I'm 5'10" and I like the nice bend in my legs. I have both the regular and low seat. I prefer the low seat as it provides a little more wind protection. I've mainly used it for commuting, long trips, and weekend twisty-rides, so everything lol. The following are some notes regarding mods, likes and gripes based on my own riding experience with the Hyp, aka IMHO.

My wife rides in the back 3-4 times a year, and it's great for 2-up, just don't forget about spring preload with a passenger (only rear is adjustable, but it helps).

So far, I've installed heated grips (had to have dealer turn on the function in the ecu, lame), RapidBike Easy, modified the throttle return spring to lessen return action, and added a pair of ebay led "fog lights" for day-time visibility-seems to have helped.

Heated grips, well, that's a no brainer. The RB Easy module does help with low throttle response, but it's not the complete solution. I believe it's basically an O2 sensor cheat that makes the ecu think the engine is cold in closed-loop operation and thereby pumps a few extra drops of gas in the low rpm region. I know this may not be the most techy explanation, I just know that it has helped with low RPM throttle response, I have not noticed an appreciable mpg delta after the installation. I also noticed the throttle return spring is insanely powerful, to a point where the slightest throttle adjustments in lower gears raise up the rookie flag in 1sec flat. I've tried different riding modes, they help slightly, but not enough.

I just completed a return spring modification since I still had the non-heated version grips (for testing purposes and not recommended due to possibly weakening the spring since it has to be heated to bend). I just finished this mod and will report more later, but the spring return rate is very close to my other bike, and I hope I can find a new spring to match, if it performs as expected....

But my biggest gripe is the suspension. It may work for some, but the front feels very stiff (with gear I'm about 172lbs) and the rear could use a little more travel. I can install springs for my weight, but I'd rather not band-aid it. I will assume since the Hyperstrada is marketed as a tourer of sorts, with 2-up capability, they opted for a stiffer front (guessing here) since the rear does have adjustable preload and rebound damping (no compression).

So this leads to my least favorite item, the front forks. During hair-pin turns, and generally any slow maneuvers, the Hyp shows it's flaws (could be my riding ability or style but usually a stiff front is not ideal for slow maneuvers in my experience. But on a faster pace, the stock suspension is not too bad. I do wish there was an offering with better suspension, but even that would be a compromise and would not suit everyone.

In a perfect world, I could live with it as is - only if the it could be raised by about 1 inch. This would help with center stand clearance to minimize road contact at higher speeds while leaned over, and I could install appropriate front springs for my weight and call it a day.

RSL, I've read your detailed posts re suspension upgrades, and that may be a route worthwhile saving for as one can't beat a custom suspension, not to mention the ability to raise it by 1".
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Old November 1st, 2018, 12:35 PM   #5
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Yes, I agree with your post, a very nice all-around bike indeed (2016 939, 3,800miles). Although I would recommend a new buyer think about the pros/cons a little more than I did. I'm 5'10" and I like the nice bend in my legs. I have both the regular and low seat. I prefer the low seat as it provides a little more wind protection. I've mainly used it for commuting, long trips, and weekend twisty-rides, so everything lol. The following are some notes regarding mods, likes and gripes based on my own riding experience with the Hyp, aka IMHO.

My wife rides in the back 3-4 times a year, and it's great for 2-up, just don't forget about spring preload with a passenger (only rear is adjustable, but it helps).

So far, I've installed heated grips (had to have dealer turn on the function in the ecu, lame), RapidBike Easy, modified the throttle return spring to lessen return action, and added a pair of ebay led "fog lights" for day-time visibility-seems to have helped.

Heated grips, well, that's a no brainer. The RB Easy module does help with low throttle response, but it's not the complete solution. I believe it's basically an O2 sensor cheat that makes the ecu think the engine is cold in closed-loop operation and thereby pumps a few extra drops of gas in the low rpm region. I know this may not be the most techy explanation, I just know that it has helped with low RPM throttle response, I have not noticed an appreciable mpg delta after the installation. I also noticed the throttle return spring is insanely powerful, to a point where the slightest throttle adjustments in lower gears raise up the rookie flag in 1sec flat. I've tried different riding modes, they help slightly, but not enough.

I just completed a return spring modification since I still had the non-heated version grips (for testing purposes and not recommended due to possibly weakening the spring since it has to be heated to bend). I just finished this mod and will report more later, but the spring return rate is very close to my other bike, and I hope I can find a new spring to match, if it performs as expected....

But my biggest gripe is the suspension. It may work for some, but the front feels very stiff (with gear I'm about 172lbs) and the rear could use a little more travel. I can install springs for my weight, but I'd rather not band-aid it. I will assume since the Hyperstrada is marketed as a tourer of sorts, with 2-up capability, they opted for a stiffer front (guessing here) since the rear does have adjustable preload and rebound damping (no compression).

So this leads to my least favorite item, the front forks. During hair-pin turns, and generally any slow maneuvers, the Hyp shows it's flaws (could be my riding ability or style but usually a stiff front is not ideal for slow maneuvers in my experience. But on a faster pace, the stock suspension is not too bad. I do wish there was an offering with better suspension, but even that would be a compromise and would not suit everyone.

In a perfect world, I could live with it as is - only if the it could be raised by about 1 inch. This would help with center stand clearance to minimize road contact at higher speeds while leaned over, and I could install appropriate front springs for my weight and call it a day.

RSL, I've read your detailed posts re suspension upgrades, and that may be a route worthwhile saving for as one can't beat a custom suspension, not to mention the ability to raise it by 1".
Great review, regarding the center stand, I had a couple of contacts with the road. then, I got rid of it, but I left the mounting bracket in the bike . When I wash the bike or oil the chain, I just put it back with out the spring ( It takes 2 minutes ) I do the oiling or washing and take the center stand off again.
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Old November 1st, 2018, 04:58 PM   #6
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Great review, regarding the center stand, I had a couple of contacts with the road. then, I got rid of it, but I left the mounting bracket in the bike . When I wash the bike or oil the chain, I just put it back with out the spring ( It takes 2 minutes ) I do the oiling or washing and take the center stand off again.
Thanks for confirming the amount of time it takes to remount the centerstand. That one has been on the to do list, I guess it's the least expensive way to get around raising her an inch. I went for a ride with the throttle spring-mod; did not like it one bit. I had to pay very close attention while pushing forward on the right handgrip through the turns as not to upset the throttle application. Way too twitchy and additionally, I don't think I accounted for my gloves when deciding to mod the spring. So, the OEM goes back in. I haven't looked at the ride by wire housing where the spring hole is drilled, but if possible, I will drill 1-2 additional holes to set spring tension in order to achieve the right "feel." In all honesty, I think something like the G2 throttle tamer will be the best solution, but I haven't researched it yet.

If you have additional input on the Metzler RT 01's, especially how they compare to the oem trail scorpions, please do let us know. So far I've been happy with the scorpions, but at under 4,000 miles, they are really starting to show their low-mileage character for me.

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Old November 1st, 2018, 06:42 PM   #7
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3000 miles already with metzeler road teach 01, they feel great, I would say, much better than the original Pirelli scorpio. I decided for the metzeler after checking a bunch of posts right here about tires and a couple of YouTube recomendation from different motorcycle sites. I was considering the michelin pilot 5 but I finally decided for Metzeler.

I use the tires in all kind or wether, wet, dry, cold, hot and they work great. The grip in the twistys is excellent all the way down. When wet I feel confortable in the road and when I turn the bike.


With 3000 miles the tires look like new
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Old November 1st, 2018, 07:07 PM   #8
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Another +1 for Metzeler Roadtec-01s are my new favorite all-around tire after many sets of Pirelli Angel GTs.
I got almost 7K miles commuting and weekend riding on my Dorsoduro 1200 which likes to eat rear tires.
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Old November 1st, 2018, 07:14 PM   #9
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That's great feedback regarding the Road tech 01's. Thank you both for the followup!
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