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Old March 5th, 2014, 02:21 PM   #1
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Hyperstrada vs Hypermotard SP w/ accessories

Guys, I have two target bikes, both left over 13's for a reasonable discount on both.

Given what you know now after owning the 'Strada would you lean towards a Hypermotard SP with a Screen, and grabrails/top case over the Strada given the suspension setup.

I probably wouldn't use the rear bags. The seat height is not an issue on the SP and I am not a huge fan of how the lower 'Strada seat locks you into position.

The price gap for me is +$1,400 for the SP.

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Old March 5th, 2014, 02:49 PM   #2
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I have the SP with the full termi exhaust. It's a lovely bike. Great colour scheme and adjustable front forks with an ohlins rear shock.

It's a very tall bike. If you are having trouble with the others you may want to check the SP.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 03:03 PM   #3
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Unless you are touring, go for the SP if it has adjustable front forks. The stockers on the Strada suck big time. You can always put on a low seat, raise the bars, add a screen and add bags but the front suspension is the kicker.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 12:20 AM   #4
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If your are interested in the SP then go for it.
Its better to by the one you wat and go from there.

But, what are you goint to use the bike for?
They are the same bike (engine, frame, bar and so on) that you can make a strada to a SP and the other way around.
So think what you want out of the bike, and get the one thats closest to how you want it.
I love my strada, and im using mine mostly back and forth to work. It works and are a blast to take on b roads, and have done trackdays with it.
It works, and give me a big smile when i ride it.
It has most of the bits i wanted in a bike, and the rest I can chage as time goes by.

If i where to go with the hyper (sp or the standard) i would miss the screen, centerstand, opoweroutlet and prob the bags as it give me the "free" option to take longer rides.
One could always add thees things to a SP.

GL and you will be happy no mater hyper or SP. The personalize thing will come anyhow. :-)
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Old March 6th, 2014, 04:29 AM   #5
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LiamWis, great advice there - in that I am really just doing a short commute with the occasional longer ride - no track days. So I'm not using any additional performance on the SP outside of the suspension tuneabilty - thats it. Otherwise, I do prefer the extra's on the 'Strada. So it comes down to - is that SP suspension worth it, especially the front fork.

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If your are interested in the SP then go for it.
Its better to by the one you wat and go from there.

But, what are you goint to use the bike for?
They are the same bike (engine, frame, bar and so on) that you can make a strada to a SP and the other way around.
So think what you want out of the bike, and get the one thats closest to how you want it.
I love my strada, and im using mine mostly back and forth to work. It works and are a blast to take on b roads, and have done trackdays with it.
It works, and give me a big smile when i ride it.
It has most of the bits i wanted in a bike, and the rest I can chage as time goes by.

If i where to go with the hyper (sp or the standard) i would miss the screen, centerstand, opoweroutlet and prob the bags as it give me the "free" option to take longer rides.
One could always add thees things to a SP.

GL and you will be happy no mater hyper or SP. The personalize thing will come anyhow. :-)
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Old March 6th, 2014, 05:05 AM   #6
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britm3: For me the suspension was not worth it. (and the higher insuranse +300 $)
But then it depends how hard you will ride and your weight. :-)
Im 185 cm and 80 kg.
If you can, test them both. If you feel that you want better suspension, you can by it.
All in all. It is the same bike, and you can make a sp to a "hyper", and a hyper to a "sp".
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Old March 6th, 2014, 07:18 PM   #7
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if i were just at least 180 cms, i'd get the sp

sadly, i'm only 5'6" so i'm stuck with the low version hyperstrada
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Old March 7th, 2014, 06:07 AM   #8
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LiamWis, great advice there - in that I am really just doing a short commute with the occasional longer ride - no track days. So I'm not using any additional performance on the SP outside of the suspension tuneabilty - thats it. Otherwise, I do prefer the extra's on the 'Strada. So it comes down to - is that SP suspension worth it, especially the front fork.
Check the 'fork upgrade for hyperstrada' thread in the 'mechanical and technical' section here, there are less expensive ways to fix them. The basic problem with the stock setup is not nearly enough spring and way too much preload.

The basic options are:
1. Ohlins cartridges at roughly $1500 plus installation
2. Andreani cartridges at roughly $900 plus installation
3. Gold valve plus springs and custom setup from Racetech for $500 plus shipping to SoCal
4. Spring preload adjustment and oil change (cheap).

All of the above except #4 require some machine work. The cost is included in #3. I can vouch for the effectiveness of Racetech's setup, and don't need adjustments now that it's right. Some folks have had #4 done, but the stock springs are still too soft for most riders. And I have no idea what spring rate the cartridge kits offer, hopefully they allow a choice.

Also, the Strada has a better rear shock than the stock Hyper. The hydraulic preload adjustment is very handy when carrying a passenger.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 11:59 PM   #9
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I debated this same thing when I was shopping. My RSV4-R has custom fork cartridges, forged wheels and a MkII TTX rear, and I was concerned that the non-adjustable fork would give me buyer's remorse, but I also wasn't sure I wanted to spend another $4000 to get a SP with bags, compared to the price my dealer offered me on a 13' HS ($13k vs $17k OTD).

What made up my mind was when I found a private party sale on a 13' HS I couldn't pass up.

I took the Strada out for a proper ride on some of the local bumpy, twisty roads and didn't find the front-end to be as bad as the forum posts I'd read made me expect. The stock fork, in my opinion, works fine. The only real limitation I found is that it doesn't work well over square-edged bumps compared to the GP Suspension cartridges on my V4. The shock is surprisingly decent, especially compared to the OEM Sachs on my Aprilia, which was pretty bad.

I had considered the 990SMT, but support for KTM is limited in my area and the overall feel of the Ducati is really nice - very similar in some respects to a friend's 525 EXC supermoto which I've put a thousand miles on, except with more power, better brakes, a good seat and more weight (although it's not as noticeable as I might have expected).

So far, my only real gripe is the Ducati transmission. I've always found them to be decent, but hard to row quickly compared to other bikes I've owned (the RSV4's tranny is better). That said, compared to a friend's HS1100 and other 1100's I've ridden, the 821's tranny seems better... I'm not sure if the slipper is a factor.

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Old March 24th, 2014, 04:17 AM   #10
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You may also want to consider the tires fitted to the two models, the SP has the Diablo Supercorsas and the Hyper the Scorpions. The Diablos are a focused bitumen burning option, so if you plan on hot runs on your favorite twisty ribbon of bitumen, then they will have you grinning. The Scorpions will give you greater fexibility and variety of surfaces and they are designed to give extra mileage.
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