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Old April 19th, 2017, 11:02 AM   #11
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Tools?

The only tools I carry are what is needed for flat repair.

LINK: Flat Repair Kit - Very easy roadside repair set-up.

Otherwise, I have Good Sam and a credit card.

Everything easily fits, along with photo stuff and snacks, in the tiny tail bag.

If I need to add rain jacket and heated vest, I switch to the Nelson Rigg bag.

Just don't care for huge top cases or tail bags.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 11:16 AM   #12
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I found a small tail bag that fits perfectly witinin the rear grab handles. I normally use it to store my Abus GRANIT detecto 8077 alarm disklock and a seat cover.







It's this one here:

Wunderlich 36920-000

The only neagatives that I can find is that it was originally made for a BMW GS and that it looks like an ass imprint when looking from front to back
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Old April 19th, 2017, 01:42 PM   #13
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Oh, the little bag that goes under the GS little rack, above the tail lights.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 04:48 PM   #14
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Tools?
The only tools I carry are what is needed for flat repair.

LINK: Flat Repair Kit - Very easy roadside repair set-up.

Otherwise, I have Good Sam and a credit card.

Everything easily fits, along with photo stuff and snacks, in the tiny tail bag.

If I need to add rain jacket and heated vest, I switch to the Nelson Rigg bag.

Just don't care for huge top cases or tail bags.
I carry a fair sized tool kit. Still pretty basic but covers most road side issues. Most times I'm lending to less prepared riding buddies.

Having made dozens of trips into Baja, Mexico and Cent. America over the last
30 years, it's good to have a comprehensive tool kit ... even if it's only for your less well prepped riding buddies. :roll eyes:

For longer rides of course good prep avoids most problems you may have.
I just resurrected my tubeless repair kit and Slime pump. Doing careful and complete pre-ride prep avoids most issues ... but sometimes lady luck can not be found. On longer rides I also carry a comprehensive Nut/Bolt kit. Usually is used by riding buddies who've lost a nut or bolt. Super Glue and Epoxy also a must carry for me.

I have several kit configurations for tools and flat repair, all depends on type and length of ride and the bike. Here are a few kits I've used. Going deep into Mexico I take a fairly comprehensive kit. Local ride? Minimal.



Long range kit for DR650
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Old April 19th, 2017, 05:23 PM   #15
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Looks like a BMW rider's kit.

You know that with tubeless tires the air pump is easier. The Safety Seal plugs don't require adhesive.

Anyway. Thousands of miles with my Strada and no tools needed. No flats either, which is unusual for me.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 10:59 AM   #16
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Looks like a BMW rider's kit.

You know that with tubeless tires the air pump is easier. The Safety Seal plugs don't require adhesive.

Anyway. Thousands of miles with my Strada and no tools needed. No flats either, which is unusual for me.
Those pics just show everything. I don't take the pump AND the CO2 kit ... one or the other. BMW kit? No, actually more of a Baja survivors kit!

Actually you DO need adhesive using "Safety Seal" plugs ... why? To get the friggin thing INTO the hole! The adhesive is used as a lubricant to allow you to push them into the puncture. Without lube (rubber cement) plug can tear in half, depending of size of hole and technique.

Always best to to lube it up .... same with tire strings ... lots of rubber cement to allow easier insert.

Since I often ride in fairly large groups ... I see more than average solo rider in terms of flats and breakdowns.
On long Baja rides (since the 80's) groups of 10 to 15 riders.
Dozens of flats on all sorts of bikes over the years.

With my Bay area street riding group, less trouble these days. Most of these guys are well prepped.

Tool kit pictured was sort of "long haul" or 3rd world kit. I customize every kit for each bike ... and for the specific ride. So the one shown is just a starting point, will add or delete items depending.

What is sad is when you're way out somewhere and your riding buddy does not have the required tool. Also, one of my "Must Have" things is a comprehensive Nut & Bolt kit. OEM nuts, bolts, washers, spacers, springs, seals, whatever.
Very handy if something falls off ... or someone falls off.


North Central Cali back roads

High Sierra nice paved roads

Beginning of 12 day Baja ride. This section is now all paved!
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Old April 20th, 2017, 12:24 PM   #17
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Actually you DO need adhesive using "Safety Seal" plugs ... why? To get the friggin thing INTO the hole! The adhesive is used as a lubricant to allow you to push them into the puncture.
Safety Seal comes with their lube, which allows for easy insertion and yet allows for the plug to vulcanize with the tire compound.

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Plugged one tire using the strings. Used rubber cement, the plug went in easy, dried and vulcanized, trimmed back with a sharp razor - back on the road. Better safe than sorry. I carry several small tubes because they tend to dry out when opened.

Also use an electric inflator and have a small handpump back up. Tested a CO2 cartridge from my bicycle kit and realized 2 things: You'll need a whole lot of them to fill a tire, the valve stem freezes and that can't be good if you need 10 cartridges to fill a tire. It's also a one shot deal. (technically, that's 3 things...)

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Old April 21st, 2017, 10:06 AM   #19
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Plugged one tire using the strings. Used rubber cement, the plug went in easy, dried and vulcanized, trimmed back with a sharp razor - back on the road. Better safe than sorry. I carry several small tubes because they tend to dry out when opened.

Also use an electric inflator and have a small handpump back up. Tested a CO2 cartridge from my bicycle kit and realized 2 things: You'll need a whole lot of them to fill a tire, the valve stem freezes and that can't be good if you need 10 cartridges to fill a tire. It's also a one shot deal. (technically, that's 3 things...)
All good. True, with co2 you need a lot of cartridges. I'm using a Slime pump now. I've plugged dozens of tires (for friends mostly).

My advice is once the plug is in and tire aired up .... check for leaks. Make sure valve core is OK.(often overlooked and left LOOSE)

If all OK then do short ride ... 20 min. Pull over, check pressure. OK? Ride on.
If NOT ok you may need to re-do string plug. This has happened to me a couple times but I've got about a 90% success rate installing plugs and strings.

Many folks are very shy about doing higher speeds with a plug in their tire. I'm not ... but I increase speeds in stages and check pressure often for several days after plug is installed.

If on a long ride, be sure to re-check pressure in the morning before departure. It's normal to lose a few lbs. in first day or so, but after that, pressure should stabilize. If losing air ... re-do plug.

After the plug has been in there a few days and no leaks, I feel OK increasing speed. I won't go top speed but no problem cruising around 70 to 80 mph.
Of course, YMMV.

Many riders insist on replacing a punctured tire, even is new. If tire is near its end, I agree. But if new or less than half worn out ... I continue riding with plug in. Done this MANY times since 1980's.

Was riding with BMW GS riding buddy. His plug repair leaked air when we were on the road. Good news is it leaked slowly so he knew he had to pull over. No sudden air loss like with a tube. We (read ME) re-did the plug ... this time it held. It's all about good technique and patience.

Some puncture holes are really torn up ... usually from rider continueing to ride bike flat with object tearing things up.

This can make the tire unrepairable. (been there done that) In one case in Baja, we had to put a tube in, no plug would hold.

But at our destination town, we took the tire to a Llantero shop (tire guy) and they did a SUPER interior vulcanized patch/plug. Remounted tire without tube. No problems from then on.
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Old April 21st, 2017, 10:10 AM   #20
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The Zumo 590 series has the TPM option, which I've added to my Strada.
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