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Old February 8th, 2017, 05:50 PM   #1
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Switching to Sena 20S for B2B, Radar, GPS & Music

Time to switch to Bluetooth and cut the wire between my helmet and the bike.

Will add photos as I make the change.

The Sena 20S allows me to use my Sensaphonics ear monitors, eliminating the helmet speakers.

The Redline radar detector, Garmin Zumo and Sena SR-10 will all be powered by the Hyper.

Sena 20S mid-ride recharges, if needed will be by an Antigravity jump battery.

The Kenwood Professional GMRS radio goes all day with heavy use on one charge.


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Old February 9th, 2017, 11:07 AM   #2
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Ever since I switched to bluetooth head phones, it's hard to go back. Being wireless is pretty liberating, and with modern battery technology they are lasting long enough to be less of a factor.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 03:34 AM   #3
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I have been using a Scala Rider G9 to stream music and phone calls for years now including keeping track of the wife on her Monster.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 01:17 PM   #4
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Have a Sena SMH10R. Love it's fit and function on my AGV Horizon. In-helmet speakers are OK for my daily, around town riding. And the VOX answer for the very few phonecalls I get is pretty sweet.

But I am a bit of an audiophile. I have been using Outdoor Technology BT Tag headphones on longer rides for years, mainly because I get them for $35 through a pro-deal account. Any in ear headphone helps quiet the wind/road noise dramatically and I just can't fish a wire comfortably with my setup.

I invested in an idiegogo startup about a year ago for a company that is developing a very small form BT headphone set. My current set are a bit bulky and ride fine but are tricky to fish into my ears through face shield opening after helmets on. Just a bit smaller and I could pull my helmet on while they're in. The startup has stalled a bit and now there are a lot of tiny BT headphones for sale at Best Buy.

Anyway, good wireless helmet system and BT headphones is the only way to travel long distance.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 02:36 PM   #5
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The Hyper leaves the rider in the airstream. With the quietest helmet made the noise level will go over 110 db at speed. Few notice their hearing loss until it's too late.

I never want hearing aids. That's why I invested so much in the ear monitors musicians wear at concerts. Sensaphonics. I had them tested at the audiologist and found they offer me a real 40 db of hearing protection.

They plug into the 3.5mm outlet in the 20S.

Think the Sensaphonics are expensive? Try mid level hearing aids.

Music isn't musical anymore once you have hearing loss. I want to continue to hear the nuances of music from my Vandersteen and heavily modified Moscode setup.

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Old February 10th, 2017, 03:32 PM   #6
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I stopped riding with any in helmet bluetooth music and switched to riding with custom moulded ear plugs with a sound filter. If I miss a phone call, ah well, I'll call them back when I'm stopped.

I found with my Sena 20S all I would do is crank the volume so I could hear it, however I thought about this.. Why am I superimposing music over the sound of traffic and/or my bike? Which when you think about it is essentially adding to hearing degradation.. Plus, after I switched I found I was more aware of my surroundings when I had no "extra" noise in my helmet.

Even in my car when I go for a drive I have the volume so low you can barely understand what's being said, it's just enough to break the silence. I want to hear if my car is making noise, I want to hear if that person has locked up their brakes behind me, I want to hear a siren from an emergency vehicle approaching from a distance, or more importantly I want to hear if theres something that might've snuck into my blind spot.

Helmets I used last season were a Arai Defiant Pro-Cruise & Shoei RF1200, and this year I've got a Arai Vector 2.

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Old February 10th, 2017, 04:16 PM   #7
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The input from the radar detector helps in those situations it is warranted, fortunately on the backroads it remains quiet. Coming back into town the chirp reminds me to check my speed.

GPS route instructions are helpful with my complicated backroad routes.

B2B radio has proven to be a huge safety asset countless times. From bad drivers to deer to gravel on the road, we share important safety information. Otherwise the radio connection helps with those who miss a turn, need to pee or need gas early.

Phone calls are for time other than riding. Focus on the ride is more important.

I do admit that adding music when I'm alone on quiet scenic backroads cruising along because it adds to the charm of the ride. Since it is be speakers located inside the ear monitor the volume is very soft.

Many worry about not hearing important sounds like sirens. Let me assure you that by eliminating the roar of the wind, other sounds become more noticeable. My ears aren't having to fight the deafening background sound to instantly focus on the sounds that are important. No, I can't hear the chirp of birds or the rustle of leaves, but neither can anyone riding without hearing protection either.

I listen to the sounds of the forest when 4 wheeling in my nearly silent V8 4Runner.
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I fly a helicopter and have custom earbuds that are wired into the comm's system. Blackhawks are crazy loud and even with the advertised 40db shield, I'll be paying for it down the line.

I know there's options like this for personal use but currently I mostly stay below 55 mph as a commuter. When I get on the highway, I use my earbuds.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 02:22 AM   #9
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Old February 11th, 2017, 05:41 AM   #10
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The BMW K100 is the closest to the Hyper. Thus, measured right at the ear in a Ride Magazine test, 100 db at 55 mph.

The 20 to 1,000 hertz sound pressures are much more than we think while riding. Hearing damage is occurring at road speeds.

Normal speech is in the 85 to 225 hertz range. Thus, motorcycle hearing loss destroys the ability to distinguish human speech.

Most earplugs offer unbalanced attenuation (15 to 20 dB greater attenuation for high frequencies than for low frequencies). Studies show that the real effective attenuation is 13 db for properly inserted foam earplugs.

Earbuds only offer a fraction of this protection.

Remember the rule: 3 db reduction is half the sound pressure.

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