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Old May 3rd, 2017, 08:05 AM   #21
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you mean "on the right side"

in Europe only women-zippers are like US ones
I'm afraid that we have it right:

"The product debuted at the 1893 World's Fair in Chicago, but it didn't have much success. The modern zipper was eventually designed in 1913 by Gideon Sundback, who worked at the Universal Fastener Company in Hoboken, New Jersey. He received a patent for his ôSeparable Fastener" in 1917."

So in Europe y'all zip the other way... hmmm.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 08:24 AM   #22
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Real men use velcro....
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 04:50 PM   #23
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... What about the rest of you?

Air bag vests are great ... will save lives for sure ... now and in the future. Right now racers will benefit the most. Products will get cheaper and better in future.

But don't forget to protect the most common areas for injuries in bike crashes.
The Hurt report (1981) and several more recent studies, indicate lower leg, ankle, foot and knee injuries are the most common injuries.

Not as life threatening as head or chest impact, but injuries to lower extremities appear far more common.

How many out there ALWAYS wear good boots? Knee/Tibia armor? I don't always ride ATGATT, but on longer rides I do.

CE armor is crap ... but we all know that, right? I've replaced my CE armor with Aerostich pads and use custom made Knee/Tibia armor.

I have a Ti plate in my leg so try to protect that leg. Hands, wrists and collarbones also tend to take a beating in bike crashes.

Even though the Hurt report features a small sample and is now ancient, many of its patterns still seem to hold up. Not bad, considering. Motorcyclist magazine always has done a good job on safety. They interviewed Hurt years ago and have published many studies and data relating to rider safety.

I like the part in the Hurt report that says dirt bike riders (That'd be ME) were NOT represented among crash victims.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 05:41 PM   #24
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1 - Protect your brain.

2 - Protect your spine.

3 -Protct your vital organs.

Everything else can be fixed.

I'm living proof of this.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 07:47 PM   #25
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CE armor is crap ... but we all know that, right? I've replaced my CE armor with Aerostich pads and use custom made Knee/Tibia armor.

Aerotstich pads look like armor from 10 years ago. I think my CE2 level stuff will do what they're supposed to.
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Old May 4th, 2017, 04:57 AM   #26
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RiDE Magazine proved to everyone that a cheese sandwich passes the CE armor test.

At $629 (10% discounts on a number of forums) is a value price for a Helite.

You still need good armor for your shoulders, elbows and forearms, knees, tail bone, thighs and hips. I spent the money necessary to get 1st rate coverage for all these areas with Motoport.



Choose your area of coverage:














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Old May 4th, 2017, 09:33 PM   #27
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Aerotstich pads look like armor from 10 years ago. I think my CE2 level stuff will do what they're supposed to.
Andy Goldfine has upgraded the pads he uses a few times over the years, AFAIK.
Maybe not the best, but in the real world I live in ... it's not bad protection.

I've witnessed some fairly horrific get offs where rider(s) wore Aerostich ... and the riders came out remarkably well.

Here is a good collection of reprobates from around here. Lots of collective experience (and hospital time) in this sample group. Could all these guys be wrong?

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Old May 4th, 2017, 09:57 PM   #28
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1 - Protect your brain.

2 - Protect your spine.

3 -Protct your vital organs.

Everything else can be fixed.

I'm living proof of this.
Good advice! ... and pretty much true!
Sounds like you've got some scary stories to relate. Glad you've made it to the other side and are still riding. Our sport is a bit risky. Like you, I don't bounce so well anymore ... that air bag jacket looks better and better.

When I tell the Doc's/Nurses my stories they always say " .. and so you've given up riding, right?" :roll eyes: Uh, no! Sorry Doc!

That is some really nice gear you've shown above. Rukka does outstanding gear. Who makes the blue armor?
I also like Motoport, but never owned it. I met Wayne Boyer (owner/president of Motoport years ago) Had an early iteration 25 years ago.

Ride (UK) is hard to find in USA. Borders and Barnes & Noble used to carry it but I've not seen it there in years. I met one of the editors once when in UK.
(at the Triumph factory) One of the best of the Brit mags, IMO.

Motorcyclist has done some great work on safety and riding over the years. Nick Ienatsch did perhaps best riding article ever ... The Pace.

I helped out with big helmet test they did ages ago. (Noise tested 30 helmets) These days they've gone off on another track with the new EU owners.
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Old May 5th, 2017, 03:22 AM   #29
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Ride (UK) is hard to find in USA. Borders and Barnes & Noble used to carry it but I've not seen it there in years.
I subscribe to RiDE and Bike magazines because of the riding perspective and writing style.

Easy to subscribe through a US importer:

LINK: Magazine Subscriptions, Motorsport Publications LLC
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BTW: Andy's Aerostich suit is certainly convenient. I enjoyed riding with one when the weather was cold, very cold. Not so much when the temperatures were above 70, nor with humidity. But, for urban riders who want protection and easy on/off Aerostich is tops. Waterproof, with occasional crotch exceptions (maybe a Russell tractor seat issue).

I switched to the Motoport because I'm not an urban rider nor commuter. I prefer to layer for weather with heated Aerostich 45 watt vest, Motoport and waterproof jacket and pants if very cold or wet. I prefer the Kevlar material custom manufactured by Schoeller Textiles in Switzerland. Jackets and pants with 100% Kevlar blend coverage because we never know what parts will be sliding on the pavement. The only textile suits rated for AMA racing events.

Life confronts each of us with tradeoffs like price of admission, convenience, protection level, etc...

Hospital days and months of pain has reinforced my choice to go with the custom made Motoport riding gear.

Getting the Helite is one more layer of protection.

As I drive and see how so many people have a Pavlovian need to react to the chimes on their cellphones, I know that it has become even more dangerous out there.
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