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Old May 27th, 2017, 10:09 AM   #31
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I wonder if you're carrying Tire Irons? Unlikely you would need them providing tires are in decent shape and you pre plan tire change of tires ahead.

I've done many Ferry crossings in Mexico and a few in EU as well. Straps have always been provided. If crossing is calm, won't need them ...or you could have a Sea State of 7 (15 ft. waves) like happened crossing La Paz, Baja to Mazatlan during tropical storm. Bikes stayed put. Severe Rock & Roll. I've never carried straps.

Make sure you've got tools enough to remove either front or rear wheel. Also,
be able to remove body work to get to innards ... battery, throttle bodies, air filter and such. Any more complex than that ... you'll need a tow.

Good luck!
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Old May 29th, 2017, 12:24 PM   #32
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On the fairings: the tool kit contains a 3 and 5 hex, but not a 4. Without the 4, the fairings aren't coming off. Also the fairing well nut is 24mm - I left mine off, but with my knipex miracle wrench, I might put it back on.

One problem with the single sided swing arm is that giant nut and giant torque. Have to let that go. Tubeless tires seem to make wheel removal not so urgent. Though access to the rear brake could be important for dirt excursions.

For the front, the only special tool is the axle wrench, though a wooden dowel would probably work. Then delicate torque on the 4 axle clamp bolts.

That air filter is tricky too. One of the T20 screws is obscured by the frame and a metal tang. It's one of those either "Italian Character" moments, of "WTF were you thinking" moments. I'm in the latter school. You know they sealed the filter, THEN assembled the housing to the bike - and you know they know this is stoopid.

Good thread - lot's of info.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 04:14 PM   #33
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Those are some good points and worth knowing for sure. I've not yet been inside my Strada ... but have always considered easy air filter access a must.

Seems to me one could potentially clog the thing up pretty good in two days of riding dirt roads (with some other bikes in front of you)
Done that on a couple bikes in Baja and Utah dirt roads.

So, what tools are required to get to the air filter? And what sort of filter is it?

Paper filters can't be washed (I'm not a fan), you can only bang them free of dirt or blow them a bit cleaner with air ... or replace them.
(not an option on the road)

If it is a paper filter ... anyone ever thought of converting to an oiled foam filter like the rest of the world? Possible?

Any tips on this appreciated!
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Old May 30th, 2017, 04:17 PM   #34
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It's a paper filter. To get to it you have to remove the gas tank, unclip a bunch of wiring held on by zipties, and then open a door held by 20T screws.

Tools - fairings: 3, 4, 5 mm allens, and a 24 mm wrench for the well nut behind the fairing

Tank: 8mm semi deep socket to remove the fuel pump cover. Also snips to release the brake line attached to the housing by a zip tie. 2 small bolts hold the shock reservoir - can't remember if they're small allens . A larger allen - maybe 7mm to remove the large bolt under the seat pan that hold the tank down, and the upper cross pieces. Also have to remove the front rubber bushings that the tank hooks onto - 5mm allens?

After the tank is freed up, you'll have to wedge it by the seat latch mechanism - it can be done. I removed the battery and cpu to get a really good grip. Might be overkill.

To access the air cleaner door you need snips to undo some ziptied wiring. The screws are 20T torx. One is very hard to access - I rigged something, but I think a very long shanked torx will get you in there at a reasonable angle. A lot of pressure and careful slow turning will avoid stripping.

Absurd - yes.

I will say that after around 20k miles and some dusty dirt, it was pretty clean except for a long dead yellow jacket.

Snips, small sockets, allen head set, zip ties and a 20T torx.
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Old May 30th, 2017, 04:44 PM   #35
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It's a paper filter. To get to it you have to remove the gas tank, unclip a bunch of wiring held on by zipties, and then open a door held by 20T screws.

Tools - fairings: 3, 4, 5 mm allens, and a 24 mm wrench for the well nut behind the fairing

Tank: 8mm semi deep socket to remove the fuel pump cover. Also snips to release the brake line attached to the housing by a zip tie. 2 small bolts hold the shock reservoir - can't remember if they're small allens . A larger allen - maybe 7mm to remove the large bolt under the seat pan that hold the tank down, and the upper cross pieces. Also have to remove the front rubber bushings that the tank hooks onto - 5mm allens?

After the tank is freed up, you'll have to wedge it by the seat latch mechanism - it can be done. I removed the battery and cpu to get a really good grip. Might be overkill.

To access the air cleaner door you need snips to undo some ziptied wiring. The screws are 20T torx. One is very hard to access - I rigged something, but I think a very long shanked torx will get you in there at a reasonable angle. A lot of pressure and careful slow turning will avoid stripping.

Absurd - yes.

I will say that after around 20k miles and some dusty dirt, it was pretty clean except for a long dead yellow jacket.

Snips, small sockets, allen head set, zip ties and a 20T torx.
Wow! Thanks for the detailed description! I'm glad my bike has supposedly had a full service at 19K. (1000 miles ago) BUT ... I'm not sure I trust the work order invoice ... I have doubts any of it was ever done by this shady dealer.

Could be the bike got an oil change, quick wash and was put on the lot for sale ... claiming it's had the full major service. The invoice shows shim measurements but the whole invoice looks "created" to me.

Only one way to really know ... pull it all apart and look at the filter and everything else. The bike is pristine so doubt it's ever seen off road. But if they lied about the service documentation, then likely cam belts and plugs were ever changed either. At near 20K this is a must from what I've heard.

Not sure what I can do at this point ... Hope for the best or press dealer for an answer?
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Old May 31st, 2017, 06:11 PM   #36
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On my recent trip I packed quite a bit of stuff with me.
On my person I had pliers and a small folding hunting knife.
In my panniers I had the following:

PANNIER LEFT:
1 flashlight
3 flares
1 oil spout
1 quart oil
1 5 pc ratcheting flex head wrench set (metric)
1 Deluxe Tire Plug kit
1 Bike cover

- in waterproof baggy
1 heavy hooded sweater
1 hex key set
1 5 pc pack of assorted fuses
1 5 pc pack of 7.5 Amp fuses

PANNIER RIGHT:
1 40 pc socket set with extra 1/4" drive and torx bits
1 can chain lube
1 8' roll of twine
1 roll of Gorilla Tape
1 folding camp saw
2 24" bungees
1 3' cut of 14 gauge solid wire
1 25' roll of 18 gauge electrical wire

- in small baggy
1 Aviation snips
1 KTM shock spanner (works for chain adjustment)
1 electricians crimp/strip tool
1 vice grips
1 ratcheting screw driver handle (bits in socket set)
25 various size and color wire ties
1 12" bicycle style bungee (to hold baggy closed)

-smaller baggy
8 crimp wire splices
1 spare headlight bulb
1 spare turn signal bulb
1 tire pres. gauge
4 strips double sided tape
1 small philips head
1 half used roll elec. tape
5 various sized hose clamps
1 small wire cutter
1 tube locktite
1 size 17 stubby wrench
1 bottle/can opener

In my old lady's car there was also a tire pump. I could have fit it instead of the bike cover but I didn't have time to find the electrical plug adapter to use it with the bike. So I left it in the car.

I don't own credit cards so that wasn't an option for me. Even if it was the only place I had cell reception was while riding the power lines on top of the ridge. Without phone service a credit card is pretty useless.
I'm a bit survival minded so I packed with worst case scenarios on mind.
Next thing I add to the panniers will be a spare clutch cable...
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Old May 31st, 2017, 09:26 PM   #37
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Wow! Thanks for the detailed description! I'm glad my bike has supposedly had a full service at 19K. (1000 miles ago) BUT ... I'm not sure I trust the work order invoice ... I have doubts any of it was ever done by this shady dealer.

Could be the bike got an oil change, quick wash and was put on the lot for sale ... claiming it's had the full major service. The invoice shows shim measurements but the whole invoice looks "created" to me.

Only one way to really know ... pull it all apart and look at the filter and everything else. The bike is pristine so doubt it's ever seen off road. But if they lied about the service documentation, then likely cam belts and plugs were ever changed either. At near 20K this is a must from what I've heard.

Not sure what I can do at this point ... Hope for the best or press dealer for an answer?
The plugs are probably fine - and easy enough to pull the front one to check, the filter is probably OK too, but if you're unsure of the belts, I'd definitely get it done just to not worry. Might be able to get the plastic housings off without removing the exhaust, just to get a look.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 02:08 PM   #38
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On my recent trip I packed quite a bit of stuff with me.
On my person I had pliers and a small folding hunting knife.
In my panniers I had the following:

PANNIER LEFT:
1 flashlight
3 flares
1 oil spout
1 quart oil
1 5 pc ratcheting flex head wrench set (metric)
1 Deluxe Tire Plug kit
1 Bike cover

- in waterproof baggy
1 heavy hooded sweater
1 hex key set
1 5 pc pack of assorted fuses
1 5 pc pack of 7.5 Amp fuses

PANNIER RIGHT:
1 40 pc socket set with extra 1/4" drive and torx bits
1 can chain lube
1 8' roll of twine
1 roll of Gorilla Tape
1 folding camp saw
2 24" bungees
1 3' cut of 14 gauge solid wire
1 25' roll of 18 gauge electrical wire

- in small baggy
1 Aviation snips
1 KTM shock spanner (works for chain adjustment)
1 electricians crimp/strip tool
1 vice grips
1 ratcheting screw driver handle (bits in socket set)
25 various size and color wire ties
1 12" bicycle style bungee (to hold baggy closed)

-smaller baggy
8 crimp wire splices
1 spare headlight bulb
1 spare turn signal bulb
1 tire pres. gauge
4 strips double sided tape
1 small philips head
1 half used roll elec. tape
5 various sized hose clamps
1 small wire cutter
1 tube locktite
1 size 17 stubby wrench
1 bottle/can opener

In my old lady's car there was also a tire pump. I could have fit it instead of the bike cover but I didn't have time to find the electrical plug adapter to use it with the bike. So I left it in the car.

I don't own credit cards so that wasn't an option for me. Even if it was the only place I had cell reception was while riding the power lines on top of the ridge. Without phone service a credit card is pretty useless.
I'm a bit survival minded so I packed with worst case scenarios on mind.
Next thing I add to the panniers will be a spare clutch cable...
I must preference this that I have the same tendencies to pack a lot of stuff ... but my question is ... on all the rides you have done so far ... few or many ... however they may be ... how many of these tools have you actually used and when stranded on the side of the road looked up or sideways to God ( or your deity of choice) and said an out loud thanks for having tool X/Y/Z with you ? I am asking this because when I pack everything and the kitchen sink and curse the fact that I did nothing happens ... when I dont .. it does ... without fail Murphy is my guarding angel ...

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