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Old December 2nd, 2017, 05:57 AM   #11
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The formas are protective, waterproof and well made. Had the bike fall on me and the boots supported it until help came. at this price it's a deal - you can always send them back.

Any electric liner/glove liner will be good. I have FIR as offered by warm and safe (they have some for sale) and its great.

I wear fox racing knee guards so my knees don't get cold.

Once your hands and torso are warm, coldness elsewhere is less of an issue.
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 12:13 PM   #12
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https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/forma-terra-boots
Those Formas look pretty good for the price.

Below is a quote from Precis (former EMT) an Aussie guy from ADV Rider who recently did a year long ride around S. America on this DR650. His wife rode with him on her own DR650.

His comments cover various gear he used in S. America and riding around Oz, but I thought his comments on Forma were interesting.

"Every single motorcycle crash I have attended as an emergency first responder, has had foot trauma to some degree - tarred, dirt or forest trails - if you step off hard enough to need our help, it's an odds-on chance you will have damaged one or more feet, along with whatever else you've injured. With motorcycle boots, it's usually minor, the worst being a contained fracture, wherein the boot acts as a splint and deformation is minimal.
But where there are work boots, runners/trainers or other general non-motorcycle specific footwear involved, it ALWAYS comes off. Every time. Then the injuries start to include to-the-bone abrasions, missing toes and de-gloving, with open ('compound') fractures. Think on that if you will...
The 'A' in ATGATT?
Forma Adventure boots will eventually leak. Ours are two years old and by 18 months, my left one was leaking worst. Just in decent rain - not immersion in river crossings. Then they were utterly hopeless: ride through a river, stop and pour the water out, resume. They also smell really, really bad after a few sweaty days. Bad enough to be left outside the tent, where they kept foxes away during the night, and outside hostel rooms, where they kept everyone away... after about a month of not being worn, the smell does go away. On the Stahlratte, I had to put my boots in the engine room. And yes that was with Odour eater liners and powder. But the Formas are all-day comfortable, on and off the bike, which my Fox mx boots are not.
Klim Badlands suits leak too, if you wear them enough. Four months in and mine leaked on the belly ( and I lost 15kg on the trip, so not too tight!), one armpit and the collar, plus the crotch. Contrary to what Klim would have you believe, laundering them does not improve this any, though spraying the outside with 3M silicon did help for a week or so. At a third the price, my Alpine Stars suit kept me drier for longer - as in, totally dry - but has that dumb zip-in liner system from the 1970s.
I'm tempted to try Rukka next - heard good things, but the stuff is poorly vented for hot weather."
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 12:42 PM   #13
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I just purchased Forma "Jasper" boots. Street boots, not Gore-Tex. So far, comfortable, good protection, not tested in rain yet. They have their own waterproofing system. Word is it's very good!

For off road I have these:
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...k-evo-wp-boots
Now super cheap at Rev'Zilla on closeout. I paid $170 for mine 1.5 year ago, now down to $104.!!!!

Great dual sport boot or really, good everyday boot too. So nice to walk in ... rare for an off road boot. But I hear the Forma's are just as comfy for walking.

These TCX Track Evo offer Very good protection, comfy for walking around, not clunky like a full Moto boot. Not tested in rain but very good on month long Baja ride ... where you basically LIVE in your boots.

Note that both TCX and Forma boots are BOTH designed in Italy but manufactured in Romania. They "stink" as Precis mentions above, but quality is good and very comfy, IMO.

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 01:40 PM   #14
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I just purchased Forma "Jasper" boots. Street boots, not Gore-Tex. So far, comfortable, good protection, not tested in rain yet. They have their own waterproofing system. Word is it's very good!

For off road I have these:
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...k-evo-wp-boots
Now super cheap at Rev'Zilla on closeout. I paid $170 for mine 1.5 year ago, now down to $104.!!!!

Great dual sport boot or really, good everyday boot too. So nice to walk in ... rare for an off road boot. But I hear the Forma's are just as comfy for walking.

These TCX Track Evo offer Very good protection, comfy for walking around, not clunky like a full Moto boot. Not tested in rain but very good on month long Baja ride ... where you basically LIVE in your boots.

Note that both TCX and Forma boots are BOTH designed in Italy but manufactured in Romania. They "stink" as Precis mentions above, but quality is good and very comfy, IMO.
Used mine for two years and either they never stank, or I didn't care, and they never leaked. Go figure. I still have them for back up.
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 08:38 PM   #15
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How about these TCX X-Desert boots?
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...gore-tex-boots
On clearance and they still have them in my size too.
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 10:33 AM   #17
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How about these TCX X-Desert boots?
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...gore-tex-boots
On clearance and they still have them in my size too.
flimsy compared to the formas. you've gotten some good advice - order stuff while the sales are active. The worst that can happen is you lose some return postage, and you can call us all assholes.

Just took a 140 mile ride in near freezing temperatures - was warm and comfortable. electrics, t-shirt, tall socks, tights, a warm jacket,big boy boots - done.
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 11:00 AM   #18
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flimsy compared to the formas. you've gotten some good advice - order stuff while the sales are active. The worst that can happen is you lose some return postage, and you can call us all assholes.

Just took a 140 mile ride in near freezing temperatures - was warm and comfortable. electrics, t-shirt, tall socks, tights, a warm jacket,big boy boots - done.
I just got back from riding about as far as you did. It was in the 50's today so I figured I'd go enjoy the backroads. Found some new ones that were fun too. Also scoped out another spot to ride off-road that isn't gated or roped off but I wasn't dressed for that today.

But yeah I figure anything I don't like I can just send back or even go exchange at the Revzilla store in person if I think sizing will be tricky. I've done that before, order stuff from them online and then go into the store for an exchange or return. Saves me postage and there's always other things I can do while in the city.

Wherever the Forma's were on sale they were sold out in my size. A guy i work with says the TCX boots are worth the money, he wears them and is happy with them. And the closeout price was quite reasonable.

I'm looking forward to trying the heated stuff out. My morning commutes will be much better if it works as advertised.
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 10:29 PM   #19
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The lowest I've had to ride in was 30 degrees. It actually didn't take much extra stuff to be comfortable.
-Heated grips
-Extra layers top and bottom underneath your jacket/pants/suit
-Balaclava to keep the wind off your neck and face

After several hours, the boots get kinda chilly, that would be the next thing on the list if I rode more in the severe cold. A heated vest would certainly be nice, but not a necessity. By far the first thing that gets cold is the hands for me.

On the bike, a windscreen and handguards makes a big difference.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 09:21 AM   #20
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The lowest I've had to ride in was 30 degrees. It actually didn't take much extra stuff to be comfortable.
-Heated grips
-Extra layers top and bottom underneath your jacket/pants/suit
-Balaclava to keep the wind off your neck and face

After several hours, the boots get kinda chilly, that would be the next thing on the list if I rode more in the severe cold. A heated vest would certainly be nice, but not a necessity. By far the first thing that gets cold is the hands for me.

On the bike, a windscreen and handguards makes a big difference.
You're a hardy man:-) Damp, night, cold, speed - Pick your poison - I never want to go there again. But, yes, those much derided hand guards make a big difference, the screen helps too.
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