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Old February 25th, 2016, 01:16 AM   #21
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PSA for anyone looking at getting heated grips. My suspicions have been confirmed at last. I had my bike into the dealer after completing the 9000 mile service myself (so they could reset the light), and finally had them turn the "factory" heated grips on.

But here's the best part: I installed aftermarket grips, and I just soldered them to the connectors that plug into the factory wiring harness. The dealer tech who did it didn't even bother to ask, since clearly the grips I used were not Ducati. Now they function exactly like the factory ones do, with the starter button. For those of you installing Oxfords, this would be perfect. You get the built-in heat controller that Ducati gives us, while avoiding the insane prices that Ducati charges for grips. Oxford sells just the replacement grips at $20 a side, which I think is very reasonably priced.
Also interested in exactly what pieces were bought/ modified.

Exactly the solution I was hoping for!!

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Old February 25th, 2016, 06:06 AM   #22
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Also interested in exactly what pieces were bought/ modified.

Exactly the solution I was hoping for!!

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So as someone who works at a company that makes literally hundreds of different styles of heaters, I was curious as to why nobody else had tried my solution yet. A heater is a heater, plain and simple. Resistance over a length of wire. I figured as long as I had the wattage relatively close to the factory grips, the system wouldn't know the difference between factory and aftermarket.

If I was to redo my installation, I would use oxfords. But please note that they are higher wattage than most heated grips, so there's a potential that they draw too much current and pop the fuse that the grips use. I haven't done enough digging to know if that's the case, I'm not sure what fuse they actually use. Since I didn't want to waste money in case my idea didn't work, I'm actually using some cheap chinese heated grip pads:


Not the greatest idea ever, and I wouldn't recommend you choose these. They don't produce much heat. Symtec heated pads have much much higher quality and aren't much more $$.

Here's what you'll need:
Heated grips or heated grip pads
solder & soldering iron
heatshrink

As for how to wire them: Disassemble the "nose" by removing the fairing, headlight, windscreen, etc. Inside, you'll find there's 2 wire bundles ziptied up behind the dash. Snip the zipties, and look for a small white connector in each bundle. Like this:


Ignore the third white connector not found in the 2 wire bundles, this is for a GPS. Remove these plugs from both sides, and cut the heatshrink off each as best you can, as we will need enough wire to solder to them. Cut the connector off your grip or heated pads, and solder (with heatshrink) to the two male-end connectors that you just removed. Polarity doesn't matter, since the heaters are nothing more than a big resistor. Make sure any soldered connections are covered with heatshrink, and plug back into the female connector on the bike. Reassemble the bike in the opposite order, and pat yourself on the back.

In my case, I also wired in separate 2 amp fuses to each grip (between the pad and the male connector), in case the cheap chinese quality proved to be problem. If I was using a brand name kit, I'd have skipped this part as space is very limited.

A few disclaimers: I can't be held responsible if you mess up, and I also can't guarantee your dealer will turn the grips on (if you think this might be a problem, have them turn the feature on before you do your own install). If anyone wants photos, I can disassemble and show exactly where to find everything, and how to wire them. Hope this helps.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 11:33 AM   #23
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Pony up and get the Duc grips. They integrate with the bikes controls flawlessly.

If you wanted cheap parts you should have bought a Suzuki
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Old February 25th, 2016, 11:50 AM   #24
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Pony up and get the Duc grips. They integrate with the bikes controls flawlessly.

If you wanted cheap parts you should have bought a Suzuki
This is an easy enough thing to do, soldering a couple wires isn't rocket science. Some of us are smart enough not to have to pay Ducati's premiums on accessories.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 03:47 PM   #25
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Pony up and get the Duc grips. They integrate with the bikes controls flawlessly.

If you wanted cheap parts you should have bought a Suzuki
What this man said!!
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Old April 19th, 2016, 06:58 AM   #26
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After doing quite a few 24 degree days with my heated grip pads, I decided to upgrade to some Oxford grips. Doing the same method as above, I wired them with the factory grip connectors. After an initial test, no blown fuses.

Get grips that melt your hands off for $45 instead of Ducati's $300. And they both work the same!
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This is an easy enough thing to do, soldering a couple wires isn't rocket science. Some of us are smart enough not to have to pay Ducati's premiums on accessories.
I'll stick with my $300 grips that didn't involve hacking apart the harness, voiding my warranty and are also warrantied themselves. Seriously dude, you bought a Ducati. Don't hack it apart like some kind of Honda Civic owner.

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Old April 25th, 2016, 05:12 AM   #28
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I'll stick with my $300 grips that didn't involve hacking apart the harness, voiding my warranty and are also warrantied themselves. Seriously dude, you bought a Ducati. Don't hack it apart like some kind of Honda Civic owner.
You're either dense, or stupid. None of the factory harness was modified. Why on earth would I spend a premium for parts that are no different than something 7-8x less?
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If you didn't cut, splice and solder the factory connectors then how did you do it? Sure sounds like you hacked it apart to me.
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Old April 25th, 2016, 07:48 AM   #30
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If you didn't cut, splice and solder the factory connectors then how did you do it? Sure sounds like you hacked it apart to me.
It's well documented what connectors (JST JWPF) Ducati uses for the heated grips and for the GPS switched power. Same connectors on all new models. Here's the image again of the pigtail that they use to keep the connectors free from dirt:


There are tons of photos around on ducati.ms and elsewhere of Diavel and Multistrada owners (google "ducati gps connector" to see these photos) who use these pigtails to wire their GPS's. The female end of the connector is the side that is part of the main harness, which doesn't have to be touched. The soldering and splicing is on this short pigtail, which again, is nothing more than a way to keep dirt out of the female end if it isn't being used. If I decided to take the grips off, all i need to do is cut the wires off again on the pigtail and use heat shrink to seal off the ends, just like Ducati does from the factory.

I simply took it upon myself to do the exact same thing as others with their GPSs, but for the grips instead. Nowhere that I have found has someone tried this, and I wanted to make it known that it is just as simple as wiring a GPS as others have done. If you're happy with the Ducati grips, then I'm happy for you. No harm, no foul.

rant over.
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