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Old June 2nd, 2015, 09:03 AM   #11
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Do you know what "grease b" refers to?
Greasing the threads helps with torque accuracy.
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 09:08 AM   #12
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Do you know what "grease b" refers to?
GREASE B - SHELL Retinax HDX2
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 01:41 PM   #13
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GREASE B - SHELL Retinax HDX2
It seems - based on this and the sticker on my bike, ducati has a sponsor arrangement with shell. For some critical moving application hi-tech grease might be good - for a bolt, I'm thinking any lithium or bearing grease you have laying around.
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 08:29 PM   #14
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You are right Zippy, my bad, moving the forks down increases trail. You seem to have your bike set up more for hard sport riding; I tend to keep on chasing the elusive middle ground looking for suspension settings that are more comfy on the bumpy back roads but don't need a lot of messing with for our tight little local track. My shop says the stock position for the forks is 250mm from the top of the BOTTOM TT to the top of the fork cap. My bike as delivered had the forks even higher than that; I am now at 11mm above the top TT but not real happy, Ducati should have made these bikes a bit higher. Do you feel you have adequate cornering clearance at 4m with the stiffer springs? I find I can drag a footpeg at will around highway off ramps with the stock Scorpions and have a real problem on the track and in street corners with a dip close to the apex. I also had to go to folding tip levers.
With regards to the torque specs for the TT bolts my shop gave me the same numbers, I'm not sure if they are right. Recent bikes I've owned have a lower torque spec for the lower bolts (Triumph 675, KTM 690, Honda CRF) so I am suspicious of those numbers, especially with grease lubricated threads. You get good feel with a standard length Snap On 1/4 inch drive ratchet, forget the specs!
As an aside, my KTM 690 Enduro R had the best middle ground stock suspension ever, it did not really need any fiddling with no matter where or how I rode it. Cheers, ride safe!
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 06:09 AM   #16
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so the image i posted that measures 10mm, yours is 4mm? wow, huge difference. just seems like WAY too much fork above triple tree with my current setup. thanks for posting
I was using a different reference point, sorry. Mine is not more than a mm different when measured per your pic. It's pretty close to where it was when the bike was delivered.
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 06:23 AM   #17
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Hi Guys
You are right Zippy, my bad, moving the forks down increases trail. You seem to have your bike set up more for hard sport riding; I tend to keep on chasing the elusive middle ground looking for suspension settings that are more comfy on the bumpy back roads but don't need a lot of messing with for our tight little local track. My shop says the stock position for the forks is 250mm from the top of the BOTTOM TT to the top of the fork cap. My bike as delivered had the forks even higher than that; I am now at 11mm above the top TT but not real happy, Ducati should have made these bikes a bit higher. Do you feel you have adequate cornering clearance at 4m with the stiffer springs? I find I can drag a footpeg at will around highway off ramps with the stock Scorpions and have a real problem on the track and in street corners with a dip close to the apex. I also had to go to folding tip levers.
With regards to the torque specs for the TT bolts my shop gave me the same numbers, I'm not sure if they are right. Recent bikes I've owned have a lower torque spec for the lower bolts (Triumph 675, KTM 690, Honda CRF) so I am suspicious of those numbers, especially with grease lubricated threads. You get good feel with a standard length Snap On 1/4 inch drive ratchet, forget the specs!
As an aside, my KTM 690 Enduro R had the best middle ground stock suspension ever, it did not really need any fiddling with no matter where or how I rode it. Cheers, ride safe!
I weigh only 155 "dry" and do not quite get to the edge of my Q3s - there's a quarter inch of chicken strip. I keep the rear preload at zero when solo. Still, I've dragged a toe in a mid-corner dip many times. But I blame that on sloppy foot position. If I were to put it on the track I'd just pull the forks down that last available 4mm and increase the rear preload. And not ride duck-footed, like Mr. Bayliss...BTW get well soon, Troy.

As for those torque specs, they are straight out of the official Ducati service manual. But I agree that an experienced hand on a plain ratchet can get close and tight enough. I prefer the older Snap-on model that is rounded and only 6" long. The short handle tends to prevent over-tightening, I've had my first one since 1972.

PS my forks got a lot better over the bumps after Racetech got done with them.
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 10:57 AM   #18
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i just got a quote from race tech to redo front and rear suspension. anyone do this? is it worth it?
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Dude, asking this on two threads should be plenty!
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Old June 5th, 2015, 01:13 PM   #20
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My bad. Sorry
I'm not a forum guy
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