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Old August 30th, 2015, 05:26 PM   #11
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Oil drain plug with magnet - 20 NM

Oil Filter - 11 NM
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Old September 1st, 2015, 06:34 AM   #12
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so good thing there are 2 drain plugs.

Did oil change last night, the plug with the magnet just would not budge. Decided to stop before I striped the head and tried the other one. I must admit i hate Allen key sometimes, of its over torqued (dam shop why i do it myself) it can strip and then be a real pain to get out. but ya make sure to go to the spec on these things. When I do next change I will be getting it out and replacing with the one linked above.

but wanted to ask, dose anyone see any issues using one plug over the other (besides not taking any metal shavings off the magnet in my case) ?
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Old September 1st, 2015, 07:29 AM   #13
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I don't know the main purpose of the second drain plug, but I believe as long as you get a complete drain from that one, it can't be a big issue to use it over the magnetic one, apart from the metal bits, as you've already mentioned.

I don't normally have issues with allen head bolts (can't actually recall stripping one of those, while I have stripped plenty of other types of bolt and screw heads....), but I also much prefer using allen sockets to those little L-shaped wrenches. With the sockets, I can use the t-handle spinner or any socket wrench that best suits the job, including the torque wrench.

In a pinch where you only have the L-type allen wrench, you can add a nice length of "torque arm" with any crescent (or other) wrench that has a hole at the end of the handle. Just set the allen wrench on the bolt head as normal and then slip the hole of the crescent over the other end of the allen wrench to use as an extension...
yeah, and before you ask, I definitely grew up on a farm... ;-)
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Old September 1st, 2015, 08:12 AM   #14
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so good thing there are 2 drain plugs.

Did oil change last night, the plug with the magnet just would not budge. Decided to stop before I striped the head and tried the other one. I must admit i hate Allen key sometimes, of its over torqued (dam shop why i do it myself) it can strip and then be a real pain to get out. but ya make sure to go to the spec on these things. When I do next change I will be getting it out and replacing with the one linked above.

but wanted to ask, dose anyone see any issues using one plug over the other (besides not taking any metal shavings off the magnet in my case) ?
I had no problem getting the bolt out, but due to the shallow allen hole, I had trouble torquing it properly with the wrench. I'll be getting a bolt with a standard head so this can be done properly. Annoying.
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Old September 1st, 2015, 02:39 PM   #15
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I don't know the main purpose of the second drain plug, but I believe as long as you get a complete drain from that one, it can't be a big issue to use it over the magnetic one, apart from the metal bits, as you've already mentioned.

I don't normally have issues with allen head bolts (can't actually recall stripping one of those, while I have stripped plenty of other types of bolt and screw heads....), but I also much prefer using allen sockets to those little L-shaped wrenches. With the sockets, I can use the t-handle spinner or any socket wrench that best suits the job, including the torque wrench.

In a pinch where you only have the L-type allen wrench, you can add a nice length of "torque arm" with any crescent (or other) wrench that has a hole at the end of the handle. Just set the allen wrench on the bolt head as normal and then slip the hole of the crescent over the other end of the allen wrench to use as an extension...
yeah, and before you ask, I definitely grew up on a farm... ;-)

ya done those tricks many times. just felt adding so much force i would strip any second and just dont want to deal with it. especially considering one of the Allen screws on the bash plate striped on me earlier the day before. The guy who made custom crash bars must have tightened it to much. Anyway got it out and replaced with a proper m6 bolt.
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Old September 1st, 2015, 05:52 PM   #16
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so good thing there are 2 drain plugs.

Did oil change last night, the plug with the magnet just would not budge. Decided to stop before I striped the head and tried the other one. I must admit i hate Allen key sometimes, of its over torqued (dam shop why i do it myself) it can strip and then be a real pain to get out. but ya make sure to go to the spec on these things. When I do next change I will be getting it out and replacing with the one linked above.

but wanted to ask, dose anyone see any issues using one plug over the other (besides not taking any metal shavings off the magnet in my case) ?
Not sure how the larger plug affects oil drainage, but it's linked with a gauze filter right above it. Every second oil change you're supposed to remove the plug, and then the gauze filter and clean the filter. They say gauze but I think it's a metal mesh. You can see another bolt at 90degrees to the drain bolt - that's where the filter is.
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"They say gauze but I think it's a metal mesh" - yep, it's metal mesh. When I cleaned mine around 3K miles it had about 5 tiny flakes of metal. Seems like a bit of overkill, but better safe than sorry.
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 10:39 AM   #18
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"They say gauze but I think it's a metal mesh" - yep, it's metal mesh. When I cleaned mine around 3K miles it had about 5 tiny flakes of metal. Seems like a bit of overkill, but better safe than sorry.
interesting. ya dont have a service manual and the owners manual basically says "bring to dealershp for this" including oil changes. That is a complete crock. But ya no clue it had that filter. Have to wait for the next oil change
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I think you can still get a hyperstrada shop e-manual on ebay for around $30.00. JKE used to sell one but I don't think they do anymore. And there's always this ever friendly forum.
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