Ducati Hyperstrada Forums Ducati Hyperstrada Motorcycle

Go Back   Ducati Hyperstrada Forum > Ducati Hyperstrada Forum > Mechanical and Technical

Mechanical and Technical Mechanical and technical topics, help, and discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old December 25th, 2016, 08:34 AM   #21
Senior Member
 
zippy49's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2013
From: Inland SoCal
Posts: 1,065

I Ride: anything I can get my hands on
I have copies of both 2013 and 2014 Service Manuals, and they both show 176 Nm (130 lb.-ft.) for this 38mm nut. But my original list showed 240 Nm (180 lb.-ft.), from the 2013 Owner's Manual. Which had other errors, such as wrong overall dimensions. I probably used the higher spec the first time I changed a tire. The hole still lined up.

A proper 38 mm socket on a 3/4" breaker bar makes removal easy. I have a matching torque wrench, Husky brand, that did not cost more than a tire. Considering what a failure here would mean, that sounds like cheap insurance.

These tools are also very useful when changing tires on my buddy's 848 Streetfighter. On that bike, you have to remove the exhausts. PITA!
zippy49 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old September 13th, 2018, 05:20 AM   #22
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
From: Boston
Posts: 823

Just to recap on this: The manual says 240 in one place and 176 in another. It's 176nm with moly grease.
appliance821 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 13th, 2018, 05:52 AM   #23
RSL
Senior Member
 
RSL's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2015
From: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 855

I Ride: 2013 Hyperstrada
Quote:
Originally Posted by appliance821 View Post
Just to recap on this: The manual says 240 in one place and 176 in another. It's 176nm with moly grease.
Yes, because lubricated torque numbers are 75% of dry.
RSL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2018, 04:20 PM   #24
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2014
From: California
Posts: 1,153

After having my front sprocket nut unscrew itself even unfolding the lock washer after I used moly lube, I'd be very wary of using it. Granted, I was using 60% moly paste. Most moly grease is 3% moly...

I usually used plain bearing grease and tightened to 176Nm
kuksul08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 16th, 2018, 08:55 AM   #25
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
From: Boston
Posts: 823

Quote:
Originally Posted by kuksul08 View Post
After having my front sprocket nut unscrew itself even unfolding the lock washer after I used moly lube, I'd be very wary of using it. Granted, I was using 60% moly paste. Most moly grease is 3% moly...

I usually used plain bearing grease and tightened to 176Nm
I haven't had your issues though I've double checked based on your experience. My guess is any grease will act as a thread locker. I'd just be concerned about regular grease holding grit and dirt and getting it in the threads.Maybe something to be aware of anyhow.
appliance821 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17th, 2018, 01:43 AM   #26
Senior Member
 
gatdammit's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2013
From: Naples, IT
Posts: 2,010

I Ride: 2013 White Strada
I will note that I bought a bargain double-sided rear axle nut socket on flea bay, and it was useless. Clearances were off and just wouldn't make a good purchase on either nut. Grabbed slightly better on the Ducabike replacement nuts I used for reassembly. Hope the 3x more expensive speedymoto socket works better. I have to pull the wheel again to replace cush drives
*side note: I installed a full sprocket kit from sprocketcenter.com I opted for all the gucci add-ons, including their poly cush drives w/ titanium hardware. I used the factory 48 NM on the cush securing hardware. They mushroomed slightly and started contacting the swingarm adjuster cog, chewing them up. I've got a new set coming but they haven't given me a recommended torque spec.
gatdammit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17th, 2018, 01:38 PM   #27
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
From: Boston
Posts: 823

Yeah - my aluminum socket rounded pretty fast- I got a steel doublesided and it's much better. That rear sprocket will look good. I'm under the impression that the poly pucks are harder so there might be a little more driveline harshness. I'd be interested in hearing your results.
appliance821 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17th, 2018, 06:12 PM   #28
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2017
From: japan
Posts: 9

176 nm for the small axle bikes such as the 796 and 821s. 230nm for the larger axle bikes 1098 etc. The nut will tighten more over time. Anti seize on the nut is best, but I just used normal marine grease as I change my tires often. Never had a problem with it. Will need a LONG breaker bar, proper long torque wrench. I would not just guess the nm by tighting the nut with a breaker bar. From 0-25nm you can somewhat guess accurately. But over 100nms your not going to guess anywhere close. Buy the torque wrench. Especially, if your going to do your own tire changes. Also, buy the double sided socket (Steel only) for the nuts. Rear wheel (Right)46mm and left side is 41mm and front wheel is 30mm. I usually tighten rear around 176nm to 180nm, align the holes for the clip, then I mark the nut/wheel with a paint pen. Do some hard accelerations around the block and stop to check the nut to see if it moved.
saken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17th, 2018, 07:53 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
From: Boston
Posts: 823

Quote:
Originally Posted by saken View Post
176 nm for the small axle bikes such as the 796 and 821s. 230nm for the larger axle bikes 1098 etc. The nut will tighten more over time. Anti seize on the nut is best, but I just used normal marine grease as I change my tires often. Never had a problem with it. Will need a LONG breaker bar, proper long torque wrench. I would not just guess the nm by tighting the nut with a breaker bar. From 0-25nm you can somewhat guess accurately. But over 100nms your not going to guess anywhere close. Buy the torque wrench. Especially, if your going to do your own tire changes. Also, buy the double sided socket (Steel only) for the nuts. Rear wheel (Right)46mm and left side is 41mm and front wheel is 30mm. I usually tighten rear around 176nm to 180nm, align the holes for the clip, then I mark the nut/wheel with a paint pen. Do some hard accelerations around the block and stop to check the nut to see if it moved.
If you get the clips in the hole and bind the ends with wire or a zip tie, I don't see how the nut will ever move, but I guess it doesn't hurt. The moly grease recommended is not anti seize, and I'm not sure that's the right stuff. Yamalube, or another similar moly grease is what' I think is on their mind. Probably not a big deal for these clipped nuts, but for the brake bolts etc.. it needs to be right. I have some nasty high concentrate stuff - seems to to the job.
appliance821 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17th, 2018, 11:13 PM   #30
Senior Member
 
gatdammit's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2013
From: Naples, IT
Posts: 2,010

I Ride: 2013 White Strada
I used machine grease from a local bike shop. Big tub that resembles moly but didn't see those tell-tale flakes in it. My cheap rear socket just wouldn't fully seat - had some clearances issues on the inner well. I slip marked them and only the smaller side nut moved very slightly after a couple days on the road, and I always ride her hard.

Really concerned about the cush pucks. Can't have this happen again. I wrestling with putting the OEM's back in. Of note, OEM pucks have metal race surrounding the bearing. Fancy poly ones did not.
gatdammit is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  Ducati Hyperstrada Forum > Ducati Hyperstrada Forum > Mechanical and Technical

Tags
rear, removing, wheel



Search tags for this page
Click on a term to search for related topics.
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wheel upgrade David1948 Mechanical and Technical 53 September 25th, 2016 08:55 AM
Hyperstrada wheel conversion.... bullzeye81 Ducati Hyperstrada 1 May 30th, 2015 09:24 AM
Removing the rear rack. fingerpuk Mechanical and Technical 1 May 26th, 2015 01:56 PM
bent front wheel rim r3monkey Ducati Hyperstrada 7 October 7th, 2014 10:24 PM
Anyone know the wheel bearing numbers? HyperstradaHopeful Ducati Hyperstrada 2 January 14th, 2014 05:53 PM


Ducati Hyperstrada Facebook Ducati Hyperstrada Twitter Ducati Hyperstrada RSS Feed



Ducati Hyperstrada Motorcycle Forum
Copyright © 2012-2014 HYPERSTRADA.COM • All rights reserved.