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Old August 16th, 2016, 02:39 AM   #31
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Here is the real world deal on adding or changing lights on a motorcycle:

1) Don't ride with lights so bright that cars flash you, day or night. Riding with bright lights on is too much for oncoming traffic, day or night.

2) Don't have more than two additional accessory lights on at the same time.

3) Accessory lighting should be below the height of the headlight.

Do those things and you won't have law enforcement issues.

I've ridden across the US so many times, Florida to Oregon, following these simple rules and have never had a single lighting issue.

If you like yellowish light, go with it. If you like daylight color, like me, there are many options. If you like fashionable blue lights, well go ahead with that too.

If anyone wants to play the game of reviewing legislation about what's DOT I can play that game too. I know what works without issue.


First and foremost is to determine what it is you are wanting to accomplish with adding or changing lights. Night rider? Urban or rural? Iron Butt? Maybe just wanting to be fashionably cool.

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Old August 16th, 2016, 05:25 AM   #32
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To see deer and road hazards the higher the light placement the better. That's why you see light bars on the roof of off-road vehicles. That's why some riders risk law enforcement by placing their driving lights above the headlight elevation.

To be conspicuous to vehicles during the day any placement is fine.
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Old August 16th, 2016, 10:05 AM   #33
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Clearwater is sending out the mount drawings to have some made. Two to 3 weeks for delivery.

Better looking and 1" narrower than mine.
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Old August 16th, 2016, 05:36 PM   #34
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Many states limit the lumen output to 300 for auxiliary lighting. Good luck with that if you are indeed serious about meeting all DOT requirements.

One such state code:

(7) When a vehicle is upon a highway a person shall light not more than a total of four lights at any one time that are mounted on the front of a vehicle and that each projects a beam of intensity greater than 300 candlepower.

(8)(a) A light, other than a headlight, that projects a beam of light of an intensity greater than 300 candlepower shall not be operated on a vehicle:

(A) Unless the beam is so directed that no part of the high intensity portion of the beam will strike the level of the roadway on which the vehicle stands at a distance of more than 75 feet from the vehicle; or
(B) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection, when use of the low beams of the vehicle headlight system is required under subsection (6) of this section.

From another state:

6. Whenever a motor vehicle with head lamps is also equipped with auxiliary lamps, a spot light, or any other types of lamps on the front that project a beam of intensity greater than 300 candle power, no more than a total of four such lamps may be lighted at one time. (CGS 14-96y)

From yet another state:

State codes list a 300-candlepower limit on headlights and is within the specs of original equipment and standard headlight replacements. Under the "Restrictions on Lighting Equipment section (13 AAC 04.145)" it explains "no more than a total of four lights on the front of a vehicle may be illuminated at any time when there is approaching traffic."

Candlepower is a rating of light output at the source, using English measurements.

300 candlepower = 300 lumen.

DOT HID 4,300k bulb output is 3,200 lumen.

Isn't it great to have such options. Some like it yellow, some daylight, some even blue. Lots of buying options out there.

I go by whether oncoming vehicles flash me. None do.
I mentioned DOT and I think there has been a misunderstanding. My concern is if it's raining or foggy, I don't want the light coming back at me, as would happen with a conical beam. The DOT "STYLE" front glass pattern I'm referring to helps minimize this.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 03:12 AM   #35
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You are right, the beam pattern becomes critical when there is something reflective in the air, rain, fog or snow. Much worse when riding at night. This is where having an amber lens cover comes in so helpful too.


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My concern is if it's raining or foggy, I don't want the light coming back at me, as would happen with a conical beam. The DOT "STYLE" front glass pattern I'm referring to helps minimize this.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 03:32 AM   #36
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There is no one light that does everything well, nor even effectively. From cornering where we need lighting that bends to illuminate the road around the bend to lighting hundreds of feet ahead to see deer on the roadside, night riding is challenging. That's why I've tried so many different lights over the decades.

For my specific purpose of being conspicuous to oncoming traffic, my setup is perfect. A setup that I find is attractive on the Hyperstrada.

It is great that we all have so many purchase options. What works well for me may, or may not, work well for you. There is no one answer.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 03:47 AM   #37
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When it comes to experimenting with added lighting, I've been there and done that. These are from one experiment on one bike:











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One more comparison on another guys bike. He has Darla LEDs down low and Erica LEDs on the mirror mounts. The K1600 has two 55w halogen high beams and one 35w HID headlamp.

This shows that with LEDs that you can dim there is little risk of blinding oncoming traffic, even at night, if adjusted right.

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I thought I'd chime in here with some other cheaper options. As much as I'd love to have a set of clearwater lights, I just don't have that kind of money to spend on them.

So I did what most cheap and handy people do, and buy stuff off ebay. The most expensive part was the OEM switch from Ducati.

The lights themselves are pretty awesome. They shine out farther than the headlight, and still fill in the ditches too. I wired them with a relay off of the parking lights, and with a stock Multistrada fog light switch. The switch had to be HEAVILY modified to work, so don't buy one and expect it to bolt on, but it's possible.

I took a nod from RSL and mounted them up near the fairing, after previously having them mounted off the radiator bolts. A small tip-over later determined that to be a terrible spot.





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Old August 17th, 2016, 05:10 AM   #40
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Flip the lights up and get a shorter mount bolt and you will have a great affordable option.
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