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Old January 14th, 2017, 05:58 AM   #31
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You do have it in neutral when starting, yes? Should not be any load from the clutch dragging.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 01:43 PM   #32
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When I went through my clutch adjustment issues, I could usually only slip in/out of neutral when the engine was off or cold. I could feel it dragging with the clutch engaged and confirmed it while testing on the center stand. I just had to keep messing with the mid and lever adjusters and finally got it back in spec.

This all started as I continually adjusted the clutch to my preferred slack setting. I hated the stock setting.
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Old January 15th, 2017, 11:04 AM   #33
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You do have it in neutral when starting, yes? Should not be any load from the clutch dragging.
Usually, clutch in in first gear. Until I get more feedback on the drag thing - and it might just be the way things are as you mentioned , I'll endeavor to start in neutral. Probably good practice anyway.
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Old January 16th, 2017, 08:02 AM   #34
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Usually, clutch in in first gear. Until I get more feedback on the drag thing - and it might just be the way things are as you mentioned , I'll endeavor to start in neutral. Probably good practice anyway.
Not sure why anyone would start in first. Some sort of theft deterrent? Starting in gear would certainly produce more wear on the clutch, etc.

Having ridden kick start only bikes ever since I learned to ride, leaving (and starting) them in neutral has been ingrained. Unless it is parked on some steep slope, which has not been an issue as I feel it move as soon as I lift it from the sidestand and can grab the front brake.
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Old January 16th, 2017, 11:23 AM   #35
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Not sure why anyone would start in first. Some sort of theft deterrent? Starting in gear would certainly produce more wear on the clutch, etc.

Having ridden kick start only bikes ever since I learned to ride, leaving (and starting) them in neutral has been ingrained. Unless it is parked on some steep slope, which has not been an issue as I feel it move as soon as I lift it from the sidestand and can grab the front brake.
Dunno - I'm rarely in neutral, and first is where I end up when I stop. Either this massive clutch drag is new, or I didn't notice it, so I'm definitely starting in neutral now.

I did have an old BSA, but my mind have blocked out the pain from that POS.:-)
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Old January 16th, 2017, 06:17 PM   #36
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Mines always in Neutral because I fire it up and walk away while it warms up. Or, fire it up while I don my gear. I also usually need to move my bike around in my small garage after shutting down.

Dunno. I always keep mine on the center stand so neutral works for me.
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sounds good. I live in the city and park outside so things, for me are different. Don't warm up on the stand, as much as let the idle settle, ride slowly for a few blocks to let things warm up on the road.
Anyway - this is maybe a bit of a hijack. I just noticed the drag in conjunction with recent jerkiness of engagement. Might be unrelated, as I also just changed to 10-40 for the winter.

I'll have the dealer check the drag, and I'll change the oil and see if engagement smooth out some.

Up the road I'll be looking at the 2015 clutch pack/spring - and I promise - neutral starts from now on.
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Old January 18th, 2017, 03:24 AM   #38
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Every time I took mine in for service, the tech's reset the clutch to stock spec. It pissed me off but is where you need to start.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 08:01 AM   #39
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I did have an old BSA, but my mind have blocked out the pain from that POS.:-)
Yes, aka 'B*st*rd Stopped Again.' Then you understand why I shift to neutral at every stop light. Force of habit from riding old bikes with dragging clutches, worn carbs, and magneto ignition. Stalling the engine is a problem, as re-starting does not always happen on the first kick. Or second....

OTOH, sometimes they start first kick, idle perfectly, and when I ride one I often get this feeling that I'm a little kid again and getting away with something I shouldn't. That's worth it!
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Old January 21st, 2017, 02:24 PM   #40
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Sorry, excuse the brag, but the 939 and I got stuck in mad summer beach road traffic yesterday (it's summer down here and the surf was pumping), and the engine temp went up to 107 degrees and the fan was working overtime. Yet the clutch performed beautifully as I trickled the bike along at walking pace for more than 15 minutes through a coastal town. If I had an 821, I'd be stumping up the bucks for a 939 clutch...
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