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Old March 10th, 2017, 06:30 AM   #11
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What does DLC mean? How are the Mupos?
The new coating that was starting to be developed is called DLC or Diamond Like Carbon coatings. DLC coatings have a lower coefficient of friction than Titanium Nitride coatings and because the coating contains a Nano crystalline structure and carbon elements in it, the coating lasts considerable longer than Titanium Nitride coatings because it has a much harder surface to it.

DLC (Diamond like Carbon) Coating is much harder than the standard chrome found on motorbike inner fork tubes and shock shafts and has a much smoother low stiction surface that improves shaft movement for a better ride. When DLC coating is combined with the SKF fork seal, there is little to no mechanical drag at all. This set up provides the perfect suspension for fast riding over rough ground, giving little to no feed back to the rider.

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...giving little to no feed back to the rider.
I have to say, you caught me off guard with this comment. The reason I'm doing it is lower stiction which I believe means better feedback (not damped by stiction).
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I was checking out the new 939 SP today. Lord, what a beautiful bike. The fork is pure GOLD. Both in color and quality. Made me real jelly. I wonder how the new Ohlins fork compares to the old SP, Mupo, and Traxxion setups.
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Is the Ohlins gas charged cartridge?
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Old March 10th, 2017, 05:51 PM   #15
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Is the Ohlins gas charged cartridge?
I don't know anything about it. But if I had one, I would surely take it apart (like I do with everything)

Now to figure out how to get one...
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Old March 11th, 2017, 04:31 AM   #16
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I have to say, you caught me off guard with this comment. The reason I'm doing it is lower stiction which I believe means better feedback (not damped by stiction).
I copied and pasted descriptions from two sites.

As for feel, I questioned that too. But, you can indeed feel stiction when it is bad. That initial resistance before the fork moves.

Eliminating stiction, and making the fork surface more durable, are both great qualities.
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Is the Ohlins gas charged cartridge?
Fork cartridge? No

Shock? Yes. But the better question is whether it's an emulsion or gas separated shock. Easy to tell as gas separated shocks have a reservoir.

Link to internal photos: http://advrider.com/index.php?thread...-shock.916951/

Emulsion - Where the gas mixes with the fluid:



Gas Separated - Where a piston separates the gas from the fluid. Much better.




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Old March 11th, 2017, 06:07 AM   #18
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Traxxion has what they call a gas charged fork cartridge.

LINK: AKGas Pressurized Cartridge Kit
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If it is a gas charged cartridge, that is likely the best available, Ohlins or Maxxion. Otherwise, I have to give a heavy nod to the Mupo. Needless to say Ohlins is good but the "factory" Ohlins is typically less than the after market. For instance, you can get high and low speed compression damping with the after market Ohlins, factory only has the high speed. After that it is things like stiffness of the parts, low friction/stiction coatings, etc. that discriminate between them. Bottom line, after market is very likely better BUT the Ohlins is also probably a bargain for the money.
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Balanced front rear suspension is important. Much like tires, there is improved handling that comes from the same design intent that comes from the same front and rear.
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