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Old November 12th, 2017, 07:01 PM   #41
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Is this the proper orientation of the belleville washer and the spacer? I placed it against the hub and around the lip as best I could with the spacer on top and the driving plate from the kit with the fibers on it around that. Then when you flip the stack up and replace the springs it will be the driving plate that is on "top" or farthest out from the center of the bike?

Then the driven plate from the kit last and all the driving/driven plates from the clutch stack minus one driving/driven plate pair?

I know that there is a "paint" style drawing that defines this from the manual that you guys created but I was just a little unsure.

If this is wrong give me a shout. Thanks!
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Old November 12th, 2017, 07:45 PM   #42
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For those that know,

Is this the proper orientation of the belleville washer and the spacer? I placed it against the hub and around the lip as best I could with the spacer on top and the driving plate from the kit with the fibers on it around that. Then when you flip the stack up and replace the springs it will be the driving plate that is on "top" or farthest out from the center of the bike?

Then the driven plate from the kit last and all the driving/driven plates from the clutch stack minus one driving/driven plate pair?

I know that there is a "paint" style drawing that defines this from the manual that you guys created but I was just a little unsure.

If this is wrong give me a shout. Thanks!
I have not down this mod yet but it is on my short list. I have replaced clutches on previous bylines and I use the "C" method. In my hear it will prevent excess wear on the aluminum hub by placing the steel flat washer up against the aluminum basket. I also choose "C" because it places the spring point closer to the center of the friction surfaces. This is all only what makes sense to me but I tend to over think things
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Old November 13th, 2017, 12:31 AM   #43
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I can only comment on what I did, which is also what bayotte did, which is put the spring first in orientation 'A' and it changed the clutch feel in a good way. It does seem weird since the common way to do it is put the washer first, but I think Ducati did it this way for a reason because it doesn't sit down perfectly flush if you put the spacer first.

I did contact fredgilb and he said he put it in orientation 'b'. He did comment that he felt it needed to warm up before the clutch felt really perfect. I'm not sure exactly what that means maybe he can expand on it.

Interestingly enough there are some clutch assemblies that say to put the spring somewhere in the middle of the stack. It makes sense that it shouldn't really matter since it's just supposed to provide that thousandth of an inch of squish before engagement.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 05:43 AM   #44
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So what I'm hearing is that the orientation ultimately doesn't matter. Just that the pieces from the kit reside in the same place in the stack? That at least makes me confident enough to put my cover back on, and after it seals I will add oil and test. I plan to give an update so we will see what the result is.

It is strange that simply changing the orientation of the spring itself would have any net effect, as in fredgilb's case.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 06:24 AM   #45
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The orientation that kuksol and myself used matches the Ducati service manual. Whether it actually matters is definitely debatable!
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