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Old May 28th, 2017, 08:17 AM   #1
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New Suspension and Twitchy Throttle recommendations?

Hello:

I have a 2016 939 and I love the bike, except for:

- Harsh suspension
- Surging twitchy throttle

Does anyone have recommendations on how to address these two issues?

Thanks
Dan
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Old May 28th, 2017, 10:00 AM   #2
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These topics have been discussed at length on the forum. Look around the mechanical/technical section. Basically you can do a cartridge/shock upgrade for the suspension and add a fuel module for the engine.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 10:07 AM   #3
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Hello:



I have a 2016 939 and I love the bike, except for:



- Harsh suspension

- Surging twitchy throttle



Does anyone have recommendations on how to address these two issues?



Thanks

Dan


I have the exact same issue.
For suspension I went With the Mupo race kit for the front and rear
For twitchy throttle I went with the rapid Nike Evo.
All in all I spent an additional 2500
It's worth it if u plan to keep the bike.
I am in love with my bike as it has been completely transformed.
If you live in Socal I can recommend a dealer for Mupo that u can go to. If not you can just mail in your forks and he can change them for you.
Let me know if you have any questions


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Old May 28th, 2017, 01:29 PM   #4
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I found than I had to change my riding style when I first got mine. Keep it about 4k RPM and it's quite smooth. As for harsh suspension, that's the price you pay for sharp handling.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 05:35 AM   #5
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I found than I had to change my riding style when I first got mine. Keep it about 4k RPM and it's quite smooth. As for harsh suspension, that's the price you pay for sharp handling.
That last statement is, to say it nicely, false. If the forks are the same as on my 2013 then they are pretty bad as delivered. Damping in one leg only! The ride over square edged bumps is just terrible. I have other bikes that ride, turn in and hold a line much better, like our Ohlins/Racetech equipped SV650. Even my "visiting" FZ-09 rides better, and turns at least as well.

As for the throttle, try running in "touring." It makes the launch from a stop much easier.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 06:06 AM   #6
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That last statement is, to say it nicely, false. If the forks are the same as on my 2013 then they are pretty bad as delivered. Damping in one leg only! The ride over square edged bumps is just terrible. I have other bikes that ride, turn in and hold a line much better, like our Ohlins/Racetech equipped SV650. Even my "visiting" FZ-09 rides better, and turns at least as well.

As for the throttle, try running in "touring." It makes the launch from a stop much easier.
While I can't speak about your sv650, stating that the fz09, a bike with a dangerously sloppy and universally criticized suspension setup, is better than the 'strada, is also, to put it nicely, false . Unless of course you're talking about the new fz09, in which case you may very well be correct.

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Old May 29th, 2017, 10:48 AM   #7
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Suspension is such an odd topic.. without knowing how you ride, your weight, tire selection, tire pressure, the road conditions.. it's VERY hard to diagnose online what everyone needs because there's just too many variables. For me, the suspension in factory form is actually quite good.. but I'm 120 lbs naked weight, about 135 in full gear so maybe the original design of the bike was intended for someone near my size.. who knows.

Throttle on mine while it has some quirks and took a little while to learn, seems to perform well. I don't run the bike in high rpm lots and it's never been in any other setting than Sport with TC/ABS either on 1 or ---.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 12:03 PM   #8
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The suspension is better at higher speeds, and clunky at low. Never stepped out on me though. Up the road, I'd consider a plusher set up, but for now it's fine.

Strangely - or not - I find the "sport" setting the smoothest when out of the city. Seems more direct to the wrist, and I've learned long ago (I have a 2013 strada) to be pretty precise with the throttle.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 04:47 PM   #9
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While I can't speak about your sv650, stating that the fz09, a bike with a dangerously sloppy and universally criticized suspension setup, is better than the 'strada, is also, to put it nicely, false . Unless of course you're talking about the new fz09, in which case you may very well be correct.
It's true, original FZ-09 suspension was pretty BAD. Sure, it "turns" OK but what happens when you hit bumps mid corner or dips? .. NOT OK, IMO

Perhaps Zippy's FZ9 had suspension modded? Many do this. The new '17 FZ9 is claimed to be much improved. The '15 is Way too soft, underdamped IMO.

My "new to me" Hyper just spent the last 10 days in the shop so the mech's could break things. (another story!)

I was lent two bikes during this time. Some weird and very low seat air cooled scrambler (I guess?) and a dealer demo HyperStrada.

The Scrambler suspension was truly horrific. The seat? even worse. Ah, but the clutch! A real, smooth broad engagement clutch! (fix coming on my bike I hope)

The hyper was better but was harsh and choppy in places. Better over 80 mph. My '13 Strada had it's suspension gone through at both ends and has those Italian valves whose name I can't recall? (Andriatti .. or something?)

Result? Fantastic suspension, some of the best I've encountered. PLUSH and very good when pushed in corners too. Riding other bikes really shows up the
differences dramatically. This bike is GOOD!

BTW, plenty of bikes with really good suspension have compression in one fork leg, rebound in the other leg. A common practice for years now.

So that is not necessarily the problem. Welll chosen valves do make a difference as well as a carefully made up shim stack and correct fork oil.
(these skill above my pay grade .. experts only territory I guess)

I'm about 185, suspension works very well. I'd guesstimate stock Strada's suspension is set up to handle a rider from about 150 to 160 lbs.?
But damping values are OFF, IMO. Both ends need fettling ... and then?
Magic carpet time.

I would never have bought my bike if it rode like the stocker I rode. NEVER.
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Old May 29th, 2017, 06:31 PM   #10
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I agree. I weigh 160 in gear and it seems about right. About that clutch, you're aware of the clutch fix kit that is in the works, correct?
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