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Old June 12th, 2017, 06:38 AM   #11
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I'd venture to say the opposite. They're increasing the intervals so their bikes have the appearance of lower maintenance costs.

I had an oil analysis done after 3k on amsoil full synthetic, and they told me I had roughly 2k miles left in the oil before they recommended I change it. So round it down to 4500 and do it between minor services. What's the cost in doing one more oil change in between the 9k services? $10 filter + $40 oil = peace of mind.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't do that - broken bikes aren't good PR, and most engineering specs have a large margin of error. The bikes, relative to the air-cooleds, do have a much better maintenance schedule.

I change around every 5k miles - probably don't have to but....

RSL: True about contaminates, especially if most of a person's riding is short local hops. That's why I change if the bike is going into long storage.

Not so sure on the dirty looking oil thing. Since it also lubes the clutch, I wonder if it's a good metric - it looks dirty pretty fast. I honestly don't know.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 07:29 AM   #12
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I get the Amsoil and filter from a local warehouse for wholesale, so it's a feel good thing more than necessity, at a reasonable price.

9,000 miles? Quality synthetics are pretty darn good.

Would I go that far on a motorcycle? Nope

I change my car oil every 10,000 miles but have two huge remote oil filters, one a ultra fine filtering bypass filter.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 09:02 AM   #13
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I recall someone posting an e-mail from Ducati corporate about how they increased the service intervals to change the image of the brand to make them seem like they require less maintenance. That was a while ago. I change my oil every 5k
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Old June 12th, 2017, 10:50 AM   #14
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message comes to the scheduled services every 15t km or equivalent in miles, maybe 9000.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 11:11 AM   #15
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I change the oil when the sight glass view is dirty.

While oil does last a long time compared to the old days, but there is still combustion byproducts that are suspended in the oil. Fresh oil is clean oil. Clean oil is a good thing.
Hey guys, Thanks!! for the feedback on oil/filter changes. My 3K to 4K interval is based on my Air/Oil cooled DR650 Suzuki. I only change filter every other oil change. Thoughts?

But, in fact ... I use RSL's technique as well. When the oil goes black in the site glass, I know a change is near. So far, my oil is clear, but only about 1000 miles since the change. 6K miles or more would be AWESOME! Hope I can make it!

Hate to bring this up ... but how have you guys done with Amsoil synthetic? Always heard GOOD THINGS but never tried it.
What other synthetic is popular for you guys?

In my DR650, 1050 Tiger and V-Strom, I simply use Mobil One full synthetic car oil (not the slippery, high effeciancy one).

About $24 for 5 quarts. (now do you see why I change at 3K? ) 60K on
DR650, 90K on Vstrom ... sold Tiger at 22K miles.

I'm thinking of giving this HyperStrada the royal treatment regards oil. I know many use $$$ Motorex $$$ and Shell synthetic.

I've used Motul until they stopped sourcing it from France ... now source it from ... L.A. from former shut down oil company (forget name). Also used
Spectro, Bel-Ray. All pretty good.

I'd like to try Amsoil ...

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Old June 12th, 2017, 12:14 PM   #16
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Oil and filter midway between scheduled changes is very cheap insurance. It's easy and quick to do.

I've been using Motul 5100 after it was suggested by my local Duc dealer. It made an enormous difference to the snatchy clutch issue - it's just like a regular clutch now Cheers.

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Old June 12th, 2017, 02:27 PM   #17
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Ug. I took my new 939 in for it's 600 mile first service today. The bike has 580 miles on it. Dealer let me know I would be back soon as the service light will come on at 620 miles and they can't reset it until it comes on. I went ahead and had the service done but will need to take it back in to reset the light in a weeks time. No charge but pita to have to run it back to the dealer.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 03:28 PM   #18
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I recall someone posting an e-mail from Ducati corporate about how they increased the service intervals to change the image of the brand to make them seem like they require less maintenance. That was a while ago. I change my oil every 5k
Yeah - 5k here too, but maybe overkill.

I think regarding service intervals, 2 things come into play:

Water cooled engines can be more precisely engineered with tighter tolerances etc.. because they operate within a controlled environment. Kevin Cameron writes a lot about this. No news here - but that's why our valve interval is 18k miles and the scrambler is 7500k.

With a given engine, the manufacturers err on the side of caution when they're newly introduced. As the stats from thousands of service records come in they can change things. I think they start conservatively though.

I had a cb500f before this bike, and the first year they had a 300mile check - something like that. The next year no check was required. My valves on this bike needed no adjustment after 20k miles.

Oh, and synthetic oil - that's 3 things.
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