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Old April 18th, 2019, 08:35 AM   #11
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Pilot, if you have it set wrong you will see straight away, the ride height will change, it will sit more upright on the side stand and you will notice the clearance issues with tyre on the hugger and chain relation with the swing arm.
Now, with the hub clocked in the upper 1-2 clock position, I have only about 3/8" clearance between the hugger and tire. I have not ridden it yet as I was just getting the chain and sprockets sorted when I discovered this.

The bike was new to me in Dec, I never rode it before this so I have no comparison. So that was why I posted to see if someone had the hugger clearance measurements to guide me.

If a non-molested bike has similar clearance to mine, then I would have to believe that the drawing posted above is correct and the text description is wrong. Although if that was the case, then the adjustment directions in the manual are also wrong.

If someone has clearance closer to 1"+ between the tire and hugger, then I would have to believe the manual drawing is incorrect and all the written descriptions are correct, which means I need to rotate my hub and clock it in the 4-5 clock position.

I also tried my local Ducati dealer who just told me their lead Duc mechanic quit recently but they have "some other guys" who would look at it. This dealer is not exclusively Duc so you can see my hesitation without them having a specific Duc tech anymore.
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Old April 18th, 2019, 08:41 AM   #12
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I just went out and measured mine. Distance between the tire and the cover is 0.75"
Mine tightens if you rotate clockwise. I don't think the hub has ever been replaced, but I'm not positive since I bought it used.

[edit] I finally was able to add the picture
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Old April 18th, 2019, 08:42 AM   #13
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See two comments above from kuksul and mentalist. I can confirm that rotating the hub clockwise (opposite to how the tire turns when moving) tightens the chain.
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This is taken from the workshop manual, also this is how mine is set up. Clockwise to loosen when viewed from chain side.
These two posts also conflict, respectfully to both of you, as I know you are just reporting how your bike is set up:

edgary has his bike most likely clocked like mine is now, axle in the 1-2 clock position. Thus clockwise rotation tightens the chain as the axle moves back and down toward 3 clock. Based on his description of clockwise, opposite to how the tire turns when moving, I surmise that is clockwise on the left (chain) side of the bike.

mentalist has his bike clocked as the written word in the manual describes, axle in the 4-5 clock position. As he rotates the hub clockwise, the axle moves down and forward, thus loosening the chain which is exactly how the manual describes.

Would this all not have been easier had Ducati embossed an arrow for UP on the damn hub?
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Old April 18th, 2019, 09:03 AM   #14
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I Ride: Triumph Thruxton R,Ducati 916 foggy rep, NC30 Honda, RD350 YPVS F1, Ducati HyperStrada, CCM FT6
My 916 is anti-clockwise to tighten, I've been searching the internet and I conclude that 4-6 o'clock is the main position to have the hub set. I've had my strada from new and pushing down (clockwise) on my C spanner loosens the chain.

Wish I was home so that I could show with pictures the bike set with the hub in both correct and incorrect positions, the chain will be very close to the chain guard with the hub set wrong.
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Old April 18th, 2019, 09:08 AM   #15
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See hub is below center line of the swing arm,
see gap chain-to chainguard and rear hugger

https://ducatistore.co.uk/hyperstrada#prettyPhoto[gal]/1/

See 38 secs into video for clearance
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Old April 18th, 2019, 10:17 AM   #16
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OK that was great info, thanks. After all this, a buddy of mine sent me a photo I texted him while I was in the teardown phase of all this. It answers where the hub was before I ripped it apart but unfortunately, now I think the last Ducati tech to work on this put it together wrong potentially.

It is clocked with the hub in the upper half, 10-11 clock position in the photo from the right side, which would put it in the 1-2 clock position from the left (chain) side.



In this position, all the tightening directions are opposite from how the manual states they should be. I guess my next step is to pull the wheel and backing plate in order to try to rotate the hub to the 4-5 clock position and see what it looks like.

I know if it is clocked at 1-2, the rear will be lower and it will slow the handling and require more bar pressure in the turns. Not exactly what I am after.

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Old April 18th, 2019, 10:20 AM   #17
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No your wrong, with the hub set lower the chassis is higher and will steer faster.
Unless I'm reading above wrong lol
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Old April 18th, 2019, 10:33 AM   #18
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No your wrong, with the hub set lower the chassis is higher and will steer faster.
Unless I'm reading above wrong lol
No, you are correct, I just made my comment based on how it is now. I have the hub clocked with the axle at 1-2 so lower chassis and steer slower. (I see why the confusion and I corrected my prior description)

Your way, hub lower (4-5) clock for the hub hole, chassis higher and steer faster.

I just want to realize how this was supposed to be set initially.

My photo just got posted so you can see it was clocked hub high, but there is no assurance it is correct since a tech was in there at one point and could have done the same as me and followed the drawing in the manual. All I know is clocked in the way it is in the photo, the chain adjustment is exactly opposite of how the manual says it is supposed to be.
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Old April 18th, 2019, 10:49 AM   #19
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I just went out and measured mine. Distance between the tire and the cover is 0.75"

Mine tightens if you rotate clockwise. I don't think the hub has ever been replaced, but I'm not positive since I bought it used.

[edit] I tried to add a picture of the measurement to make sure it's what you're asking, but it wouldn't add it, so maybe try https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ah4bwvbRmFeqsGMz9
Thanks for the photo. Mine also tightens when the hub is rotated clockwise from the right (chain) side of the bike.
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Old April 18th, 2019, 10:54 AM   #20
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OK that was great info, thanks. After all this, a buddy of mine sent me a photo I texted him while I was in the teardown phase of all this. It answers where the hub was before I ripped it apart but unfortunately, now I think the last Ducati tech to work on this put it together wrong potentially.

It is clocked with the hub in the upper half, 10-11 clock position in the photo from the right side, which would put it in the 1-2 clock position from the left (chain) side.



In this position, all the tightening directions are opposite from how the manual states they should be. I guess my next step is to pull the wheel and backing plate in order to try to rotate the hub to the 4-5 clock position and see what it looks like.

I know if it is clocked at 1-2, the rear will be lower and it will slow the handling and require more bar pressure in the turns. Not exactly what I am after.
I also just realized from this photo that directly above the axle hub hole is the mounting tab for the ABS sensor. I believe if I were to pull this apart and rotate the hub down so the axle was clocked in the 4-5 position, that mounting tab would no longer clear the top of the swingarm.

I think I am realizing that the manual is most likely wrong in how it describes which direction is tight and loose for rotating the hub.

Was in mentalist who had the tight/loose correct as the manual? If so, I'll probably need to wait until he gets back to his bike for a pic.
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