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Old June 3rd, 2014, 12:14 PM   #11
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Curious- did you price labor to have them installed by a shop?
I didn't price labor to have them installed by a local shop because I generally do my own work. I was quoted $200 for installation into my bike's fork legs by Fast Bike Industries (where I got the kit), and on top of that I'd have to take them off, pay for shipping both ways, and stare at a legless bike while I await my upgraded forks.

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Old June 4th, 2014, 06:40 AM   #12
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Thanks for the very informative post. You and your machinist figured out a couple of things that sounded like they could be a lot of trouble. I would be willing to do this with the info you posted.

So, how about the review? I'm sure you can find some potholes up in there in Long Island...and I'm officially asking any similarly equipped rider in SoCal to contact me for a back-to-back test ride. East Grade Road on Mt. Palomar would be a great test!
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Old June 4th, 2014, 08:16 AM   #13
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So, how about the review? I'm sure you can find some potholes up in there in Long Island
There's no shortage of suspension-challenging roadways here, that's for sure.

I intend to do a review once I get sack and sag set up better... I'll probably get that done this weekend. Right now I'm just turning knobs and screws trying to make it feel right, but I'll have to redo that too once preload is where it should be. I look forward to having it all set up correctly because the way it is now is good, and I anticipate it being even better.

Stay tuned.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 05:32 PM   #14
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What a difference another 1/4 turn made.

I kept the little allen key in my tank bag pocket and before I left work today I took another quarter turn off the rebound and compression screws and man, what a difference. I may have found the sweet spot for my NYC Metro area commuting. As soon as I rolled off the edge of the driveway, a two inch curb, I knew I was on to something. The bike's front end was positively PLUSH. I kept aiming at bumps and the bike was like "yeah, so? what else you got?"

And I still haven't done sack and sag yet. Before I do I'm going to turn the screws all the way in a see how many turns out I am. I'd messed with it so much I lost count. I hope once I set sag and sack front and rear I'll be able to get back to the way it feels now.

Having a front end that feels that good makes me see the need to address the rear shock. David at Fast Bike Industries tells me that Andreani will be making the Ohlins shock for this bike. But it's too costly... retails at $1890. Yikes. Someone I know has a good relationship with Works Performance. Maybe I'll see what that'll cost.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 05:45 AM   #15
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What is this sack you keep referring to.
I've set a few bikes suspensions up in my time and never heard this phrase. Even the legend Dave Moss doesn't mention it.
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Old June 5th, 2014, 06:47 AM   #16
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What is this sack you keep referring to.
I've set a few bikes suspensions up in my time and never heard this phrase. Even the legend Dave Moss doesn't mention it.
Back when I started tinkering with bikes I heard the term sack and sag used and I understood it as referring to the extent at which a bike's suspension compresses under it and the rider's weight while at a standstil (sag) and how much more travel it's got left when having to expand to accomodate to a depression in the road (sack). I don't always know what I'm talking about, so I googled it and found only a few sites that seemed to have copied and pasted the same info I found here: http://www.sportrider.com/suspension-tuning-guide-handling
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Old June 5th, 2014, 06:53 AM   #17
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Did you get a spring rate number from Fast Bike? That is a critical value. Would like to know, inquiring minds and all...
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Old June 5th, 2014, 07:09 AM   #18
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Did you get a spring rate number from Fast Bike? That is a critical value. Would like to know, inquiring minds and all...
Good question. I didn't see a number anywhere obvious in the paperwork, maybe it's coded. But I do know that the springs were selected based on my ready-to-ride weight. I'll email David and ask if he knows what the rates are.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 09:01 AM   #19
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Back when I started tinkering with bikes I heard the term sack and sag used and I understood it as referring to the extent at which a bike's suspension compresses under it and the rider's weight while at a standstil (sag) and how much more travel it's got left when having to expand to accomodate to a depression in the road (sack). I don't always know what I'm talking about, so I googled it and found only a few sites that seemed to have copied and pasted the same info I found here: http://www.sportrider.com/suspension-tuning-guide-handling

'I see said the blind man.'
Basically your on about static sag and loaded sag.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 03:32 AM   #20
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I live on Long Island. Have not touched the bike other than the Givi Trekker adapter from Ducati Bellevue. If the offer still stands, I might inquire about the help with the upgrade. Even though I am an architect (more the designer than the engineer) I am not great with a wrench.
I am mid-island, south shore Suffolk
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