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Old April 20th, 2015, 07:34 PM   #31
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Thanks for the feed back Ferdi. What other type of bikes and rising have you done in the past?
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Old April 20th, 2015, 11:36 PM   #32
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Thanks for the feed back Ferdi. What other type of bikes and rising have you done in the past?
my bike history

Main bikes
Lohner 200 (Scooter, MY 1956 , used, from grandpa/uncle, some thousand kilometers, as it was already an oldtimer when i got it, my repair-carriere started already there ;-) )
Suzuki GT250 (new, MY 1978, 25000 km)
Yamaha RD350 (new, MY 1984, 30000 km)
Yamaha XJ600 (new, MY 1986, 40000 km)
BMW R100GS (new, MY 1988, 115000 km)
Aprilia Mana (new, MY 2010, 10000 km)
MotoGuzzi Stelvio (new, MY 2011, 20000 km)
Ducati Hyperstrada (used in 2014/2015, MY2013)

Second bikes i had different ones - Derbi GP1 250, Skyteam Gorilla125 (with Zongshen 150 ccm), BMW GS650 Dakar, Yamaha DT125, Honda MSX125 (Grom125 in US- with Yuminashi 164cc BBK)

Always have done maintanance and small repairs by my own.
At the small bikes i installed the BBKs by my own. But had never removed and disassambled a fork, only changed fork oil and springs in the past.

But, i would'nt have been able to do the cartridge change to the Andreani by my own. Maybe right leg, this one was much easier than the left one, because it also had a cartdridge which was fixed with a screw from the bottom. But left leg was really strange and hard to disassemble.
Reassambling was quite easy, except of the missing tool.

I attached 2 pictures, 1 of the original fork entrails (right picture) and 1 of an Andreani fork (left picture, but not exactly the HS821 Andreani fork), where the red arrow points to the nut, which has to be countered the top cap so that this cannot loosen during driving.
unfortunatly the picture is not from our HS Andreani cartridge, because on that the nut is inside a black tube, which is between cap and spring, as on the original fork. so, you have to press down the black tube against the power of the spring until under the nut, fix it under the nut and then thighten the nut against the top cap thing.

on the picture of the original fork entrails the red arrow on the left leg points to a bushing (dont know how is it named in english, dictionary brings me 15 different words for my german one ), which is screwed in in the orignal fork so that you really do not see, that it is screwed in. you only see inside a shim with holes which has to be removed but do not see in the first moment, how to remove it.

when i am at home i can make a picture of our workaround-tool we made to compress the tube+spring, if wanted.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 01:37 PM   #33
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Ferdi,
If you have anything to share there is a Suspension thread stickyed up top. I was hoping to have a one stop shop with TONS if information about suspension upgrading there. If you could please toss your info there. Which I think will make it easier for people to find the information and opinions they need going forward .
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Old April 26th, 2015, 09:58 AM   #34
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The front feels really choppy, like you can feel every little ripple in the road, the fork doesn't feel very compliant, nurse daddy said his felt about the same after his install.
On another thread I commented on the Mupo cartridge kit gave a much improved ride over the standard set, which was choppy. I have lost the choppy ride and I ride on some pretty bumpy roads. However you have to weigh up the costs.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 10:09 PM   #35
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I bit the bullet and installed the Andreani kit on my '13 Hyperstrada.

I got it on special from Omnia Racing for 384 euro plus shipping, and had it installed by the local Ducati genius at DMoto in Sydney. The kit had the standard 7.8 springs, we used the Ohlins oil as recommended.

They set the bike up with the preload almost all the way out (about 1/3 turn out of 10 turns), with the compression damping at minimum (all the way out) , and the rebound damping at about half way in (2 turns out of 4).

They also adjusted the rear suspension to full pre-load with the rebound adjustment backed off 1 turn from full.

So far the front seems more supple and seems to have lost the juddering over bumps that the standard shocks have. It seems well balanced with the rear.

As soon as I can get a day when it is not raining I'll take it on more of a run on some country roads and report back. But so far so good.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 05:40 PM   #36
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They also adjusted the rear suspension to full pre-load with the rebound adjustment backed off 1 turn from full.

So far the front seems more supple and seems to have lost the juddering over bumps that the standard shocks have. It seems well balanced with the rear.
REALLY? I thought the stock setting 0 preload and 1.5 turns of rebound was fine. I can ride it pretty damn hard on back roads and it works on commuting. I tried to back down the rebound by 1/2 a turn on my last back roads ride and it got worse, not a lot but enough that I went back to 1.5 turns. I would think that full preload would be stiff to the point of bouncy. I have noticed there is not a stop on the preload adjuster, I thought that was kinda strange. You can just turn it till you arm falls off.

As we all have said, the front end is not the best. I must get along well with static setting suspensions because I can have a good old time with it and its ok on the commute too. Over all it does seem like the suspension could be better yes, but I don't find it too bad right now (180lbs without gear).
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 05:36 AM   #37
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REALLY? I thought the stock setting 0 preload and 1.5 turns of rebound was fine. I can ride it pretty damn hard on back roads and it works on commuting. I tried to back down the rebound by 1/2 a turn on my last back roads ride and it got worse, not a lot but enough that I went back to 1.5 turns. I would think that full preload would be stiff to the point of bouncy. I have noticed there is not a stop on the preload adjuster, I thought that was kinda strange. You can just turn it till you arm falls off.

As we all have said, the front end is not the best. I must get along well with static setting suspensions because I can have a good old time with it and its ok on the commute too. Over all it does seem like the suspension could be better yes, but I don't find it too bad right now (180lbs without gear).

my preload has 32 clicks, where a click is 1/2 a trun, so it has 16 turns from not preloaded to full preload.
I drive my preload with 10 turns to close from open and rebound -1.5 from full closed (Ducati default).
with wife on backseat i have preload 26 truns to close from fully open (so still 6 turns left for luggage ...) and rebound -0.4 from fully closed.
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