Monster 821, gets modified clutch spring!! - Page 2

weilrennwagen · July 11th, 2014, 09:16 PM

I never had any complaints about the clutch. No idea what they're talking about! In fact it's one of the most consistent and easy to use clutches I've ever used.

zippy49 · July 14th, 2014, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyParkStrada

There's less expensive levers than the Pazzos, but I had to have White ones, so I went with the Pazzos.

I have had no trouble with my Strada's clutch. The only time it acts strange is if I don't slip it properly - it does not like to be 'dumped.' And I don't generally do drag race starts or wheelies on the street. At least, not on purpose!

Where has anyone seen less expensive levers than the Pazzos for the 821's cable-operated clutch? The $30 Chinese copies I got for the wifey's SV650 were of a quality that matched the price.

Danothill · August 1st, 2014, 01:54 PM

It seems like mine felt great until its first oil change. Now it's very touchy and grabby. Can't remember what they put in it but I know it was different from the factory oil. Next time I'll inquire before I just let them do it.

vincentgurle · August 1st, 2014, 02:18 PM

Any news on retrofitting those new clutch parts to the HS? I'm really interested in doing so if possible.

uspspro · August 23rd, 2014, 01:21 PM

So I looked into this, and it's not the clutch springs that have been changed.

What they did was add set a Belleville washer style spring to the clutch disc set.
info: Belleville washer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unfortunately, Ducati only sells the disc set as an entire set. The part numbers that are different between the Hyper and the new Monster 821 are:

- Clutch disc set
- The clutch pressure plate (they call a disc)
- Plate holder hub (rear)

Actually, the pressure plate for the Hyper has been superseded with the one in the Monster. So maybe those with late 2014 bikes has the newer plate... However, without the Belleville "anti-shudder" springs, which come with the disc set, there will be no change in functionality.

All of the other parts (springs, outer basket, front plate holder, etc...) are the same.

Unfortunately, to buy those parts would cost around $1000 USD

Perhaps just the disc set would do it (around $400+), but that's not clear....

Monster 821 clutch:

Hyper clutch:

gatdammit · August 23rd, 2014, 06:42 PM

a new set for those 2 damn washers...bullshit.

zippy49 · August 25th, 2014, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatdammit

a new set for those 2 damn washers...bullshit.

+1 on that - I will call my dealer to ask them to harass Ducati for a kit with just the parts we would need. They could do it if enough owners complain.

uspspro · August 25th, 2014, 07:50 AM

The other 2 parts might be slightly different to allow for the additional
Thickness.

nekura · September 8th, 2014, 08:04 PM

This seems like a no-brainer to introduce with the 2015's... other than just changing colors on the SP.

vincentgurle · September 19th, 2014, 12:44 PM

Agreed. I hope that they can sell a kit for those two parts. That would be swell.

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July 11th, 2014, 09:16 PM	#11
weilrennwagen Junior Member Joined: Jul 2013 From: California Posts: 26	I never had any complaints about the clutch. No idea what they're talking about! In fact it's one of the most consistent and easy to use clutches I've ever used.

August 1st, 2014, 01:54 PM	#13
Danothill Junior Member Joined: Jul 2013 From: Colorado Posts: 5	It seems like mine felt great until its first oil change. Now it's very touchy and grabby. Can't remember what they put in it but I know it was different from the factory oil. Next time I'll inquire before I just let them do it.

August 1st, 2014, 02:18 PM	#14
vincentgurle Member Joined: May 2014 From: California Posts: 46	Any news on retrofitting those new clutch parts to the HS? I'm really interested in doing so if possible.

August 23rd, 2014, 01:21 PM	#15
uspspro Junior Member Joined: Nov 2013 From: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 25	So I looked into this, and it's not the clutch springs that have been changed. What they did was add set a Belleville washer style spring to the clutch disc set. info: Belleville washer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Unfortunately, Ducati only sells the disc set as an entire set. The part numbers that are different between the Hyper and the new Monster 821 are: - Clutch disc set - The clutch pressure plate (they call a disc) - Plate holder hub (rear) Actually, the pressure plate for the Hyper has been superseded with the one in the Monster. So maybe those with late 2014 bikes has the newer plate... However, without the Belleville "anti-shudder" springs, which come with the disc set, there will be no change in functionality. All of the other parts (springs, outer basket, front plate holder, etc...) are the same. Unfortunately, to buy those parts would cost around $1000 USD Perhaps just the disc set would do it (around $400+), but that's not clear.... Monster 821 clutch: Hyper clutch:

August 23rd, 2014, 06:42 PM	#16
gatdammit Senior Member Joined: Mar 2013 From: Naples, IT Posts: 1,931 I Ride: 2013 White Strada	a new set for those 2 damn washers...bullshit.

August 25th, 2014, 07:50 AM	#18
uspspro Junior Member Joined: Nov 2013 From: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 25	The other 2 parts might be slightly different to allow for the additional Thickness.

September 8th, 2014, 08:04 PM	#19
nekura Junior Member Joined: Feb 2014 From: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1	This seems like a no-brainer to introduce with the 2015's... other than just changing colors on the SP.

September 19th, 2014, 12:44 PM	#20
vincentgurle Member Joined: May 2014 From: California Posts: 46	Agreed. I hope that they can sell a kit for those two parts. That would be swell.