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mentalist July 11th, 2014 12:27 AM

Monster 821, gets modified clutch spring!!
 
Hi, I read the latest report and tecnical data on the new monster,
It gets a revised clutch (anti-judder) spring, to stop the grabbing and jerky movement that is inherent on the motard/strada range.
I wonder if this can be retrofitted to the Strada. Going to speak to my dealer about it.

2015 Ducati Monster 821 First Ride Review | Sport Rider

"The youngest of those two bikes, and the bike that we’ve tested here, the 821, is essentially a Monster 1200 outfitted with the same 821cc Testastretta 11º engine used in the Ducati Hypermotard and Hyperstrada. Changes to the powerplant include a larger airbox, new ECU settings, shell main bearings, and a judder spring in the clutch that’s intended to smooth clutch engagement (the Hypermotard is famous for having one of the worst clutches in Ducati history and making it a challenge to just to leave a stop smoothly). An exhaust now comes fitted with slash cut mufflers that arguably sound better than the 1200’s system, but otherwise the engine and associated hardware are identical; as a result of the larger airbox, the Monster makes roughly two more horsepower than the Hyper—112 hp @ 9,250 rpm versus 110 hp @ 9,250 rpm on the supermoto model. Torque output remains 65.8 foot-pounds at 7,750 rpm."

Dryer July 11th, 2014 07:29 AM

I would definitely be interested to check it out.

Have any of you guys experienced anything as bad as indicated in the article -> "the Hypermotard is famous for having one of the worst clutches in Ducati history and making it a challenge to just to leave a stop smoothly." I've never had a problem in this way so this comment sounds way over the top to me.

BlueSwede July 11th, 2014 08:11 AM

Sounds off the mark. Makes me wonder if we already have an upgraded spring and action. My clutch is light, smooth, not grabby, and it's very easy to modulate. For me, it's the first time going back to a clutch cable in decades. Cable action and clutch feel/control have come a long way...

appliance821 July 11th, 2014 09:11 AM

Everything's a compromise - lighter wheels give increased agility but less stability. I think one of the reasons why a bike with such a short wheelbase is so stable on the highways is the wheels and those big honking brake discs.

gatdammit July 11th, 2014 11:01 AM

About the clutch...My bike was in the shop a couple weeks ago for tires and some minor tweeks. They did 2 things I didn't ask for: cleaned/lubed the chain and adjusted the clutch to what I assume is factory spec. I'm new to this shop so maybe they just do these to all service orders, but I hated both and here's why:

1. I know I've dicked with the clutch and it's far from spec. But, I had it in a very comfortable spot and launches were smooth and I had it set so I just breathed on it with a very fast/aggressive shift through the upper gears. I looked like a noob leaving the shop with the alien clutch and new tires. I was actually frightened I was going to cause an accident my launches were so ugly.

2. They used way too much lube on the chain and it sprayed all up the left side of the bike and my pant leg. That stuff doesn't come out of khaki riding pants and it's really bad when you don't know it's there and touch or sit on things. I'm dealing with lots of stains.

I'm going to mark the clutch and probably try and find my old setting. I know I never will...

st2cmack July 11th, 2014 11:46 AM

Coming off of an ST2 whose clutch was well sorted, the one on the HS made me, and still does sometimes, feel downright incompetent. I'd be seriously interested in the anti-judder spring. I have dicked with the clutch adjustment and it is marginally better but nowhere near where it should be.

As for dealers, it seems a bit of a crapshoot as to their competence. So far I've ben lucky and they have not done anything "extra."

I think a lot of the bikes stability comes from what I think is a honking long swingarm for the size of the bike. The wheelbase on the HS is actually a couple of inches longer than my old ST2.

HyParkStrada July 11th, 2014 06:00 PM

Adjustable Levers
 
Clutch was annoying for me too. The friction zone was at the farthest point of the lever travel, away from the bars. Took some practice to master, but I still didn't like the ineffeciency of the motion.

Then, I ordered some Pazzo adjustable levers. Problem solved.

Found my setting, adjusted the cable accordingly, and done.

Now, I have a nice, natural friction zone that is early in the motion of releasing the clutch.

st2cmack July 11th, 2014 06:18 PM

Good call on the Pazzo's, I'll have to look into them. Thanks

HyParkStrada July 11th, 2014 06:44 PM

There's less expensive levers than the Pazzos, but I had to have White ones, so I went with the Pazzos.

They are really awesome.

Very easy, quick adjusters.

FYI: Pazzo white powder coat and Ducati Pearl white are def 2 different colors, if you're a perfectionist.

gatdammit July 11th, 2014 09:02 PM

The levers are covered by handguards. You really care about that 0.5" that hangs down below?

You know what, that sounded asshole-y. I'm just more of a black off-set guy. Too much white accent and people will be looking for 24" rims and a custom white leather seat.


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