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Old April 13th, 2017, 09:58 PM   #1
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I Ride: '13 Hyperstrada, '06 DR650
Noob looking for guidance....

I've just bought a used '13 HS. Only test rode it for an hour on some good roads and 10 min on Freeway. Very impressed ... save that jerky clutch. Suspension has been re-valved at both ends ... it's quite good and now adjustable.

I'm new to the HS, but not to riding. Owned about 50 and tested bikes for City Bike magazine for 20 years.

I'm wondering what are the best threads here and best members to learn key important things about this bike?? I'm not a HP junkie but DO love a good handling bike.

Hope to do some 1 to 4 day tours on this thing ... possible?

I found the HS very stable but does not turn in quickly (I'm used to DR650). But I think I just need to learn this new to me bike, maybe change tires, raise fork tubes up in Triples, Raise rear preload?

Brakes are fantastic, love the power ... and I already figured out the grabby clutch (NOT ideal! ).

I've read the thread about ongoing solutions to this. Good on you guys for pursuing this ... I will be following along will try the few simple things put forward to help with engagement. (oil, adjustment)

Suspension is quite PLUSH ... a pleasure after the FJ-09 I just sold. Hated it.
The Duc motor kicks butt. So light. Has nice Termi pipe, not too loud.

So any links to good Noob threads for knowledge, please post them up. I'm here to learn.

Thanks in Advance!
Patrick
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Old April 14th, 2017, 02:20 AM   #2
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Put on a couple thousand miles and decide about the seat. I chose to change to the race seat to allow fore aft movement.

Ride Skaggs Springs and Kings Range a few times and see if you think the suspension needs to be upgraded.

Get rid of the dumb gas vapor canister.

The tire selection decides the turn-in feel. Switching the the Pirelli Diablo Rosso III will change your mind and bring a smile to your face.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 03:55 AM   #3
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Are the fork tubes not in the stock position?
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Old April 14th, 2017, 11:30 AM   #4
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It's agile for a midsized street bike, but it weighs maybe 100lbs more than the DR. That might be what you're feeling.

The clutch shouldn't be too bad. This might be voodoo, but I think it helps to center the threaded lever adjustment , do a global adjustment at the second adjuster (on the right beneath the small black plastic panel) ad fine tune at the lever.

Also - if the chain isn't properly adjusted , there will be a lot of driveline snatch.

Do you know which aftermarket suspension was added. Could be good feedback for the forum. Plush is not an adjective used for the standard set up.

Just had my first proper ride of the season here in friendly sunny New England - I love this machine. Hope you do too.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 12:56 PM   #5
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Thanks for the feedback!
If the 427 lbs. Wet figure is correct for HS, then DR650 is "only" 60 lbs. lighter weight than the HS.

Probably the biggest factor for light feel of the DR is it's 21" front wheel and Dual Sport Geometry.

Thanks much for the adjustment tips on clutch and chain ... will try them ALL!

I'm not sure at this point who did suspension but sales guy thinks either Catalyst Reaction (San Carlos, CA) Catalyst Reaction | for the love of two wheels

... or Super Plush Suspension (San Francisco, CA)
https://superplushsuspension.com

I hope to pick up the bike either late today or tomorrow. They had a problem with the rear brake ... needed bleeding they said. Said this is common issue when the bike HS sits ... anybody heard anything about this? Anyway, they are going over the bike in detail. Good news is it's just had THE Major Service.
So saved about ...??? $800 to $1000 there???

I would like to extend the seat room a bit more to the rear too. Just need another inch of two. Seat foam and density seem very good, just need an inch or two more to move round a bit.
Thanks!
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Old April 14th, 2017, 12:59 PM   #6
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Are the fork tubes not in the stock position?
I believe they are ... I will check and confirm. Mine have adjusters on top of them. I may raise up tubes to quicken steering. Done this on several bikes with reasonable success.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:08 PM   #7
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Put on a couple thousand miles and decide about the seat. I chose to change to the race seat to allow fore aft movement.

Ride Skaggs Springs and Kings Range a few times and see if you think the suspension needs to be upgraded.

Get rid of the dumb gas vapor canister.

The tire selection decides the turn-in feel. Switching the the Pirelli Diablo Rosso III will change your mind and bring a smile to your face.
Thanks for the tips RSL.
How's a Texas guy know about "MY" roads! We have those ... and a LOT more next time you come out. Let me know, I'll draw up a route for you.
But your point is WELL TAKEN ... I know I need time on the new (to me) bike before making any changes. After a month or so hopefully I will adapt to some things and come to LIKE others. By then I should have a clue about what it might need.

Initially I loved the bike ... always a good sign. Hope it will just get better.
I'm totally open on subject of tires. I prefer soft, compliant tires like some
Avon's I've used, the Rosso lll's sound very good too!
Thanks for the suggestions! I'll keep reading the forum!
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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:20 PM   #8
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Thanks for the feedback!
If the 427 lbs. Wet figure is correct for HS, then DR650 is "only" 60 lbs. lighter weight than the HS.

Probably the biggest factor for light feel of the DR is it's 21" front wheel and Dual Sport Geometry.

Thanks much for the adjustment tips on clutch and chain ... will try them ALL!

I'm not sure at this point who did suspension but sales guy thinks either Catalyst Reaction (San Carlos, CA) Catalyst Reaction | for the love of two wheels

... or Super Plush Suspension (San Francisco, CA)
https://superplushsuspension.com

I hope to pick up the bike either late today or tomorrow. They had a problem with the rear brake ... needed bleeding they said. Said this is common issue when the bike HS sits ... anybody heard anything about this? Anyway, they are going over the bike in detail. Good news is it's just had THE Major Service.
So saved about ...??? $800 to $1000 there???

I would like to extend the seat room a bit more to the rear too. Just need another inch of two. Seat foam and density seem very good, just need an inch or two more to move round a bit.
Thanks!
I think 427 is optimistic. One thing on seating - you might want to go up, rather than back. The front end's a little light, and it's designed to have you up on the tank. YMMV

Just had my major service - so yeah, you saved some scratch
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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:50 PM   #9
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Try Motul 7100 10w40 oil. Really helped in my bike for the clutch.

The hyper takes a lot of commitment to turn well. Because it's so tall and you're seated up high, you need to transfer your weight a lot to get lean angle. It doesn't turn as quick as some but is still very nimble.

Get the recalls done if they haven't been done yet - CAN Protection Cable, and Throttle Control Unit.

I'm also in the bay area - where abouts are you? I'm in the south bay. There are a number of other local riders on this forum. It would be fun to one day get a hyper group ride together.


Enjoy the bike, and welcome to the forum. This bike is super fun. It's somewhat narrowly focused in my opinion, but still a great bike all around.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 04:26 PM   #10
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I think 427 is optimistic. One thing on seating - you might want to go up, rather than back. The front end's a little light, and it's designed to have you up on the tank. YMMV

Just had my major service - so yeah, you saved some scratch
I wish I could go up ... but I'm only 5'6" with 29" inseam ... so as of now, on the balls of my feet. Can't go much higher without Frankenstein boots! :roll eyes:
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