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Old February 17th, 2019, 10:33 AM   #11
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...forks didn't have as much dive as the hyper during braking...No rough edges like the HS...My favorite things about the Aprilia are the clutch and smoother fueling...
This is all better than the Hyper, no arguing it...my Hyper has proven more like a base to make a better bike but you have to make it better if you're gonna love it, which I will once I get that jutter spring in my clutch and starter upgraded to Denzo one, which will be after I finish my present project bike (BMW R1150SR) so my old lady will ride with me more (she'll ride the Hyper but not for any real distance)...
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Old February 17th, 2019, 03:59 PM   #12
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LOL - I love it when I ride it, and I think upgrade when I don't. Winter can be an expensive time. In the end it's a fine machine.

But yeah - after 5 years it needs some long term type maintenance, so I might just throw in new parts and see what happens. Wouldn't mind some more front end feel.
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Old February 18th, 2019, 07:24 AM   #13
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This is all better than the Hyper, no arguing it...my Hyper has proven more like a base to make a better bike but you have to make it better if you're gonna love it, which I will once I get that jutter spring in my clutch and starter upgraded to Denzo one, which will be after I finish my present project bike (BMW R1150SR) so my old lady will ride with me more (she'll ride the Hyper but not for any real distance)...
I love the HS but I really need to consider other options now with no local Ducati service for her. There were two places nearby when I bought her and now there's none.

The clutch upgrade is the best money I've spent on this bike so far. Luckily I haven't had starter problems yet. When I do I guess I'll have to fix it myself.
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Old February 18th, 2019, 07:53 PM   #14
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...really need to consider other options now with no local Ducati service for her. There were two places nearby when I bought her and now there's none...
Hear you and see your point, dealer situation could be better here too, since I build most of my bikes, I'll continue to do my own work...best of luck in your search...
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Old February 19th, 2019, 06:37 AM   #15
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Hear you and see your point, dealer situation could be better here too, since I build most of my bikes, I'll continue to do my own work...best of luck in your search...
I do work on my bikes, namely my Suzuki Savage but thatís a low tech bike making it easy to work on. The Ducati with its advanced technology is a serious stumbling block. Iím sure I can physically replace my blown dash but without the means to sync it with the ECU thereís no option but to take it to a dealer.

With modern bikes the electronics can really get in the way of working on it yourself .
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Old February 19th, 2019, 03:02 PM   #16
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With modern bikes the electronics can really get in the way of working on it yourself .
Agreed, sound like neither of us was raised with much in electronics... '-)
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Old February 20th, 2019, 10:13 AM   #17
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Agreed, sound like neither of us was raised with much in electronics... '-)
Conversely I worked as an electronics R&D tech back in the 90's and also an avionics tech during my time in the Navy. But without any technical documentation on the electronics and firmware onboard the bikes from the manufacturers it's asking too much to work on that stuff yourself. I really wish manufacturers would open source the firmware for their products so it can be maintained by the public after the product is no longer supported but in our disposable economy that goes against their strategies.
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Old February 20th, 2019, 04:51 PM   #18
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Funny, I was an Nuc MM (snipe) in the Navy, they wanted me to be a twiggit back when they taught real troubleshooting as opposed to swapping modules like they do now....we're old.... '-/

On the firmware, I personally doubt they'll want to open source it, you can really jack someone up if you hack it and tell it to do bad things....

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Old February 22nd, 2019, 08:46 AM   #19
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Funny, I was an Nuc MM (snipe) in the Navy, they wanted me to be a twiggit back when they taught real troubleshooting as opposed to swapping modules like they do now....we're old.... '-/

On the firmware, I personally doubt they'll want to open source it, you can really jack someone up if you hack it and tell it to do bad things....
I wasn't black shoe I was an airman (AE3). The rate no longer exists because no more component level troubleshooting required.
At 1st I worked on F-14 Tomcats and they were all component level and mechanical troubleshooting.
Then I cross trained for the F/A-18 Hornet and things got module based except for the black boxes it shared with the Tomcat.
Next I went back to training and learned the new F/A-18 Superhornet. Not even modules anymore. You disconnect big hunks of the fuselage and wheel them into the depot where you connect them to a big computerized test frame and it tells you what to replace inside. If it can't be fixed you pull a known good chunk of airframe and install that instead. The LEGO jet fighter.

Nowadays I fix and restore old analog electronic music equipment for a hobby. Makes up for the lack of tangible accomplishment in my work as a software engineer.
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Old February 22nd, 2019, 03:07 PM   #20
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Oh, airdale, that was a very desirable rate when I was in, real trouble shooting has become much rarer for sure. Funny enough I went into aerospace/astrospace after the Navy, can't plan...now I do satellites, at least until I retire and can pay real attention to all of my hobbies...take care...
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