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Old August 19th, 2017, 12:31 PM   #41
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Love this debate. I bought the crf250l primarily for it's reliable reputation, long service intervals and finally where I would be riding it. If I were mostly riding in the States or Western Europe the 250 would not be my first choice, just too small. I went for reliability and availability of spare parts. I should note while I bought a 2016 crf250l at the end of the season for $3990 I have spent at least another $3k to upgrade the poor stock suspension, increase the fuel range, lighten the bike by 20 pounds, protection, heated grips and a decent seat.

I researched for quite sometime and communicated extensively with Steph Jeavons and Peter Schltens/wife who were well into a RTW on their CRF250l's. In the end I just took a flyer and went for it. I still lust after the KTM 690'S though, especially when I am getting blown off the road by strong winds.
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Old August 19th, 2017, 01:01 PM   #42
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We all benefit from research and selecting the right tool for the job.

RTW is a whole different animal than the kind of riding I do. Different because of the purpose focused on the journey much more than any performance expectation. Look at the bikes taken RTW, that will prove my point.

Best of luck on your preparation and journey Marty.








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Old August 21st, 2017, 07:14 PM   #43
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Good point. Traveling to 3rd world countries demands being prepared, both before to fail-proof your equipment, and during by being able to make things function again.

A prudent traveler, with the concern over a too-small battery, like KTM is often accused of, will carry a small Earth-X jump lithium battery.
You'd be amazed how poorly prepped some moto travelers really are. Many jump in at the deep end ... and just muddle through. Self Abuse? Yep!

Some look like the pics you've posted ... and worse. Many young Brits, Irish, Aussies head to S. America, buy a local bike (usually a cheap Chinese 250). Some have travel experience, many don't and just wing it.

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Something I wish I had the one time I had a motorcycle battery fail. One time in decades of riding.

Many wait for failure to perform what I consider routine maintenance. Maintenance like battery replacement, or additives in fuel to keep the entire fuel system clean.
The tiny/powerful portable Lith batts are for sure the Go. Really could have used one back in the "bad old days" of really crappy batteries. Like you, had very few batt failures in last 20 years but on many group rides I've dealt with dead batts on friends bikes. Our best solution out on the road is buy a small car batt., strap on seat, ride away! Even if the bike has a failed charging system, you can run "total loss" for quite a while before having to recharge that car battery! Wiring it up is biggest challenge ... and keeping it from falling off the bike off road.

Sometimes things happen even to well prepped bikes ... like Ducati's. Hung out with some long time Ducati riders yesterday on our famous Sunday Morning Ride ... heard some positively hair raising Ducati nightmare stories. OFF THE SCALE.

Good prep and maintenance is an art form, both bike, luggage and rider. Back packers and climbers do well with luggage and camping, not so much on mechanical side. Many can only follow UTube tutorials and rely on dodgy 3rd world mechanics to bail them out of trouble. Many simply "walk away" once moto is dead. (or they think it is!)

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Old March 24th, 2018, 06:00 AM   #44
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I've been following with the plan I outlined earlier to make the HS more commuter friendly and buying a dual sport for off-load fun.
To this end I've had the clutch upgrade installed and am finally happy with riding the bike in stop and go traffic. Much less tiring to do now that the clutch has consistent action.
I'll be shopping for street tires to replace her TK80's in a few months.

Also I've been to the bike shop to check out some various dual sports and so far I'm really liking the DR650. it feels really good to me. Perfect weight and height for me. And comfortable enough for highway riding to get up into the mountains from where I live.

So I'm officially shopping around for the DR now. Hopefully I'll find a good deal on one before summer starts.
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Old March 24th, 2018, 06:32 PM   #45
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I've got my eye on the new G 310 GS Rally Raid. Ungraded level 2 suspension, tubeless wheels, better protection, lighter exhaust. Of course you are going to have to drop another $3k over the stock bike but it looks like a winner in the small displacement adventure space.

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Old March 25th, 2018, 06:18 AM   #46
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Sadly its a thumper
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Old March 27th, 2018, 09:32 AM   #47
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I took my HS out for a quick spin last Friday and went to my local Yam/Honda/Suz/Kwaka dealership to look at the AT. They're blowing them out for 10k so I had to go and look. Didn't ride one but size wise, they're huge compared to our little HS. Based on that alone I don't think they're in the same category. lol.
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Old March 27th, 2018, 11:59 PM   #48
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Friend of mine showed up on an AT he got a great deal on. Well optioned with all the high-end touring farkles: hard luggage, ABS, DTS, cruise, GPS. He liked the DCT. I ribbed him about my lighter bike with smaller motor making more power, but it was way more tractable at low speed/ rpm. Definitely more adventure than touring.

I came away after a quick ride around the block thinking I would certainly consider it over a GS. His had less than 5K miles and he got it for $10K.
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Old March 28th, 2018, 05:10 AM   #49
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Ok here it is, my ultimate dual sport bike
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/...529570514.html

JK!

So in my searches I found two 2012 DR650's for $4300 and $4500 both low miles (<5000)
Plus an older 2000 with 10,000 for $3000.

Are these reasonable prices?
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Old March 28th, 2018, 07:16 AM   #50
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Some guy from DC went through a bad divorce. Bought himself a Honda Ruckus and rode it all around the States then up to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska. A Ruckus.

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